Page created 23 Nov 2003 by dex
A flavorful broth, full of stories from past weddings and plans for future ones.
i will share the proposal. i know when pedro shared his news of his engagement i was dying to know the details. so here's what happened.
we were at the milwaukee art museum, which is a new (built within the past few years) very cool structure shaped like a ship. there is this neat, looong white hallway overlooking the lake (you feel like you're right on the water) and some cool stone benches set within. it was a stormy, tempestuous, beautiful day, and i couldn't stop looking at the water. hernando suggested we sit at one of the benches and just hang out and look at the lake. he was behind me, with his arms around me, and we were looking out at the water, just talking. clever move, his positioning, because i couldn't see when he pulled the ring out.
here's the part which deserves some exposition: we met in january of 2002, on the internet. (for back story, maybe see some of outsideinfluence's early diary entries, but it's not important). i was not looking to meet ANYONE in that way, or any way, at the time, but God had different plans. my sister and i had had AOL for all of a week or two, and i am very computer/internet un-saavy (even now). which is what foolishly, luckily prompted me, after talking online for an hour or so, to suggest we speak to each other on the phone at some point because he was so cool and funny and just different in the things he wrote. we talked on the phone, we e-mailed and talked for a few weeks, and then decided to meet in person. by our first date i knew i adored this guy. the wonderful qualities i loved immediately have only become further treasured over the last two years. i cannot believe i get to share my life with someone so special.
as i said, we met in january 2002. i bought this little plastic heart at walgreens that valentine's day (so just about a month after we had met) which says, "e-mail me (as a cheesy joke alluding to how we met). the heart is hollow, so i bought a little black bear to sit inside it. when hernando pulled out the ring on saturday, he had it draped on the little black bear's arm inside the heart. things coming full circle, et. al. he got down on his knee, said stuff which i will never forget but won't write here, and proposed.
i am the luckiest person in the world.
then we looked at art for about an hour (i am such a practical person and didn't want to waste the admission charge) and had honestly been looking forward to this museum, but all i wanted to do was celebrate and call people to announce the good news.
so here we are.
SUHHH-weet!!!!!!
I'm all teary eyed here. That's so sweet!Jay proposed to me on his birthday. He said it was the best birthday present ever.
because he'll never forget the date of the proposal. heh heh.i will definitely take you up on your offer, bigJ (and any help anyone else can offer on an affordable wedding). i am not looking to drop 50 Gs on this, excited as i am about it.
I think those that have gone through planning or been intimately involved in weddings should also use this entree to post advice, dos/don'ts, etc for those of us in the throes.
1. have your mom make the cake. (mabe not everyones mom can do this but, its worth looking into)
2. during all the crazyness of the day make sure at some point you stop and soak it all in, otherwise it will be fly by and you wount know what happend.
but having someone non professional make a wedding cake can lead to all sorts of trouble, but what we did was made a small cake (for 50 I think) and then got sheet cakes to actually feed people with, made for a much cheaper cake.I'll come up with more later, right now it's lunch time. I think we have a good book on how to do a wedding at a reasonable price somewhere, but of course we've moved and our books are still in boxes, but if I find it I'll let you know.
... will also have cakes! We got both of ours, both to feed about 100, for about 1/8 the price of a facy schmancy cake.Instead of having you caterer do kids meals, send a groomsman with a car to McD's or some other place with basic chicken nugget meals w/ toys. The toys will occupy the kids table (a must have) and it is WAY cheaper, plus the kids loved it, all of em.
Spend your $$ on a damn good photographer, but also put disposables on the tables. Some of our best pics came from those - like the bride and her two best friends doing the can can with thier fluffy skirts.
Buy your own booze and hire a bartender. Way cheaper than an 'open bar' offered by your caterer. Plus you can return unopened bottles to the liquor store (or keep em if you're so inclined).
Do something special for your ceremony music. It makes it way more memorable - we had a wonderful string quartet.
I'll post any more I think of.
.. Bridal Bargains. Well worth the $12 or so you pay for the book. Baby Bargains is the companion for later, which I have along with a bazillion baby and pregnaNncy books if any of you want em, I'll happily send those :) I gave away my bridal bargains a few years ago though.Also if you tell me what style wedding you're planning I can post inexpensive and fun favors to go with it. I love wedding planning and helping make / find stuff.
we spent way more and did way more research on a photographer than anything else. Well, we probably spent more on the food and wahtnot, but we went to several photo places and selected the one we liked the best. We also had a chance to meet with our photographer beforehand and see his work and discuss what we were looking for. It was really important to have a laid back person taking our photos and we found someone that respected our wishes and did a fabulous job. We totally spaced on any b&w and the photographer didn't come to our reception (our choice), but we had plenty of cameras and disposables there but our portraits and ceremony shots turned out amazing. I only wish I had bought new glasses before the wedding instead of soon after.
I'm gonna buy that book you suggested. I have a $20 gift cert. to Barnes & Noble and have been waiting to find the perfect thing to spend it on (since I've been getting all of my fiction reads from the library for free!).Hernando and I have a semi-official time set: next April. We were looking at next Memorial Day weekend, as it's easier for people to travel, but that's a popular weekend and thus much more $$$. I am so sad that this dental stuff has wiped out my entire wedding savings (I'm talking thousands of dollars--it's so discouraging). But health comes first...grudgingly. Our parents, wonderful as they are, really aren't in the position to help us financially at all, so it'll be a pauper's wedding in every way.
I am terrified of this whole planning process. Thank GOODNESS I have a sister and several wonderful friends who love this sort of thing. I just want to blink and have it all taken care of and be walking down the aisle.
I have bridal bargains, and it's sitting on my counter not packed with my others boooks just so I can give it away to someone. It is a lifesaver book! I may not have been a bride, but I love a good bargain!
I already paid for the book with Half.com...but it was only six bucks, so not too much. Thank you, though!
I'll give it to Pedro or something, you want it senor P?
We already have two cheap wedding books -- they cost half as much, so we thought we could buy two!*wink*
we donated over 100 books last weekend, good times.
I post on another board, and they were discussing them recently. It had never occurred to me before.It seems that some people feel that while it's nice for people who are travelling from out of town, weddings over 3-day weekends suck for in-town guests who are looking forward to a chance to get away. And to a certain extent, I can understand that -- the dilemma between your only chance to get a decent camping trip for several months & going to a wedding. Then again, if I wanted to be at a wedding, I'd be there. So I guess at the end of the day, you just need to do what you want to do.
I thought of that aspect of it, too. People often have plans over 3 day weekends and I wouldn't want our wedding to conflict with it. I would like to be a spring bride, and April is just as good (if not better) than May. Even in May it can get "too" hot for me, which is anything over about 65 degrees. And I want to be able to choose whatever sort of dress I want without worrying about the heat factor of silk et. al. I don't relish the thought of exposing my arms and neck to God and country (not that I think that's immodest; it's just a personal thing), so sleeves or something seem to be in order, but when I think of sleeves+wedding dress I imagine some horrible 80s look, and I'm back to square one.Dress? I haven't even thought about it at all besides the sleeve thing. I don't like fancy clothes and I hate shopping. The funny thing is, it seems that every time one of my student workers comes in (these are all girls, mind you) they have found another PERFECT! dress for me, and then they look it up online and show me. If I can't get excited--or to be truthful, am dreading--picking out a dress, I don't know what the heck kind of wedding planner I am.
But I am very excited about it all--I mean, marrying Hernando. Elated, actually. That's the only good part of this. I just hate planning huge, daunting things, especially huge expensive things that I have to pay for. I am a wuss. I am perfectionist so I am worried that people won't have fun, the food won't be good, etc. The thought of Vegas has crossed my mind more than once, but then I know certain family & friends will be disappointed. Sigh. I just can't deal with the stress of it all. And that fact that this should be a wonderful, exciting thing to plan. Not stressful. I don't know what's wrong with me.
heidi, i want to help you find a dress.
I had sleeves, short ones, made of lace. Then again I got married in May in Northern VA, it was pretty daggone warm outside.Sleeves can be VERY sexy, very lovely. You can go with the renaissance princess look, or a slim tapered satin, or lace. With or without diamante or pearls embroidered in! I love wedding dresses. Then again, I love designing costumes and really, that's all this is is a costume to get married in.
what kind of dress are you thinking of? Are you an ornamental kind, or something very chic and hip? Something just plain satin?
Pedro, what kind is ALH wearing? Or perhaps you don't know. Hmmm. Some husbands don't find out til the wedding day.
we just want to preserve the surprise, but it's not some big deal to us. alh had a very hard time finding something that she liked... but eventually she figured something out. I'm really excited to see it though, because I think she has great taste.
Something really (REALLY) simple, and white, and silk. Thinking of it as a "costume to get married in" strangely makes me feel much better. Like I will be, you know, acting for a few hours (the reception really is for everyone else, I'm convinced), and then can get back to my everyday life and enjoy being married to the greatest person I know. I didn't know you design costumes. I will show you an idea of something I saw which I liked, and let me know what you think.Npw this is what I'd REALLY like to be married in, but people will think I am a freak.
http://www.lindsayfleming.com/arran.htm#lindsayfleming
L.L., you have the best taste and artist's eye to know what will flatter (and be "me") more than anyone I know. I leave it entirely in your capable hands. I know Joy's wedding won't be the ideal time to get started on this, to say the least, but the next time we are able to see each other for a few days, and actually shop and try stuff on and have actual fittings, let's get down to biznass.
it's lovely. It says Heidi all over it.
You'll know it when you find it. I've had several friends swear to me up and down that they just wanted something simple, and then ended up with something ultra-princessy because they said they just knew when they tried it on that it was the perfect one... My sister-in-law hired a seamstress and designed her own dress. Do you know anyone who sews?
I would have had my Aunt Dorothy make it because she was the most amazing seamstress I've ever known, and she could have customized to be whatever I want (not to mention it'd be cheaper). Sadly, she passed away this past April. I'll have to improvise (and buy it already made, I'm assuming).
is your sister-in-law who you mentioned Jessica, Erik's wife? I was on Cross-Country with her if it's the same person. She's a nice person.
If that's what you would love to get married in, then GET IT. A friend of ours had a Renaissance wedding, complete (compleat? heh) with madrigal singers. Not that I'm suggesting that. But ultimately, this is YOUR wedding and YOUR big day. You shoudl do what will make it special for you, you know?I *love* that dress!
Yep. That's my sister-in-law and the mother of my only nephew.
I had a bunch os classes with her, she's a real sweetheart. Did that sound fruity? Not that I care I am just wondering.
I remember Jess. she was a sweetheart. glad to hear that she and erik are doing well and have a child!!
and that's awesome that they have a son. I'll bet he's one cute kid. I think I remember you posting on here when he was born.Dex, I would love to get that dress, or something like it, but it's hopelessly out of my price range, especially since I've had my whole mouth reconstructed recently. I'm terrible at shopping, but I'm not bad at improvising, so I suppose I'll figure something out. I ordered that book you suggested and it should be here any day. Maybe it'll have some ideas in it.
it's got a ton of ideas, and a lot of them I followed for our wedding, and I think our's turned out pretty darn well, and we did it all for under $8000 and that includes the honeymoon, of course I got a great deal on the cruise since it was October, but I called in every favor I had from everyone and that made things much cheaper. But, it was a hell of a lot of work.
i don't want to impose any ideas or anything, but maybe dex would be able to help create your dream wedding dress, cinn? it sounds like you really love that kind of thing, dex. just a thought. hopefully i'm not creating an uncomfortable situation by mentioning it...and bigj, i think everyone had a fabulous time at your wedding. it was a blast and it seemed like everything went off without a hitch and was a very special night for everyone involved.
A good idea. I've got a brand spankin new sewing machine being delivered in April. But it's been so long since I've sewn anything more than just hems and seams that I'd need to practice with the machine before I could tell you if it would be feasable. If I COULD do it though, I certainly would love to.
I mean, it's not every day you help someone's dream (even if it is 'just' a dream wedding dress) come true.
thanks. Dex, I know you have to be busier than a one-armed paper hanger with two little ones (I am pulling out all of my stupid expressions this morning. I think I'm tired). Anyway, you are very nice to even contemplate such a task. We'll see what happens. I'm going to start dress shopping soon and hope I run into something I like which isn't $2,500.
What do you all think about changing/keeping one's maiden name? I am having a very hard time with this. I have a hard time envisioning changing my last name, and I am very attached to it, but at the same time I think it's important (for a sense of unity, etc.) to have the same name as the person you're married to. I just can't make up my mind on this. I have no moral leanings one way or another; I don't think it's right or wrong to do either. I am, just personally, having a very hard time with it. I also have no aesthetic issues in my own case; I love, really love, H.'s last name and would be proud to have it as mine. But I can't imagine changing my maiden name. It feels like giving up an important part of myself.Any commentary/opinions are much appreciated. And be as honest as you want...I promise I won't be offended. As I said, I have no strong opinions on this issue except ambivalence as it relates to me.
I completely understand your confusion on this. I have not been engaged or married, so all of my musings have been based on that "what ifs," the experiences of others, and loads of feminist jargon. The best that I've come up with as a solution is to keep the maiden name and attach the additional name at the end, not with a hyphen but as a fourth name. Of course, if you have two middle names already, your name would end up enormous... But, that way you get to keep the part of you that is vested in the name you've had so long and still take a new name for the new you that is part of a married couple.
If you're attached to it, then keep it in your name. Alternately, kick out one of your middle names and have your maiden name as your middle name. I've seen women do that.I don't see it as a moral issue, but I do think of it in terms of simplicity. I want my kids to have two parents with the same last name. It's weird, sometimes Anna's little friends don't have the same last name as their moms, but I'm friends with the mom, and I'll send a party invitation or what have you to, say, Kathy Taylor. But Kathy's last name might NOT be Taylor, it might be Adams, the dad's last name. Then I feel embarassed for addressing it wrong, and there;s awkwardness.
I'm making too much of it though. I tend to feel embarassed easily. Comes from being overly picked on in HS.
the above advice sounds quite reasonable. i like the idea of omitting your middle name and keeping your maiden name as your middle name.and i agree with Dex - in terms of simplicity, having one last name for parents and child(ren) is probably the best way to go.
personally, i say don't do the hyphen. i really hate the hyphen.
(i.e., do anything but hyphenate. he hates that too). it is aggravating, i have to agree. go with one or the other, or even have four names, but hyphenating is bizarre. i like the middle name suggestion, and i'm not particularly crazy about my middle name so it wouldn't pain me to lose it.amy, a few years ago aforesaid feminist thought would have been my main proponent for keeping my name--and maybe in my subconscious that still plays into it a bit--but i think i can reconicle my feminism (feminist-icness?) to changing my last name at this point in my life. it's more of a personal than ideological issue. but i'm still torn about it. thanks for the input, it is good to weigh all veiwpoints.
I love my middle name and would never give it up which is why I suggested the four names thing...
I know what you mean about the feminist bit being at work in the subconcious, but, ultimately, isn't the goal of feminism choice- that you get to choose whether or not to take your spouses name, not that you HAVE to keep your own? So, lucky you, you get to make a choice about what you want your name to be after the wedding...
Straight-up advice- it sounds like you have a terrific relationship with your dad; don't give up that last name that he gave you. Keep ahold of it somehow.
that's what karna did. she just shifted her maiden name to be a second middle name and stuck my last name on the end.
and that didn't even register until I read that, Amy. My dad has been my rock, my protector, the person who raised me, and, ultimately, the coolest guy I know. My name is his name, and I am much closer to his whole family (the D0yles) than I am to my mom's family. I feel very tied to my father's side of the family and part of that is our commone name. My very cool aunt, my dad's sister, kept her last name when she married, and that was in the early 80s, when it wasn't as acceptable or PC as it is now. Maybe this is some weird Freudian issue (in a purely emotional sense, of course) about being "given away" from my dad--I've never liked that term--the person who's been closest to me (excepting my sister, and now Hernando, who in a way usurps my dad in being my rock, my protector, and the coolest guy I know). All of which H. truly is, and I respect and honor him for that. I know that Biblically speaking, as a few of my friends have tried to convince me, it is only right to take my husband's name. These aren't ignorant or close-minded people, either, but they see it as a sacred thing. Which as I said, I don't (not denouncing the religion aspect; I'm just saying that even as Christians, which H. & I are--or Jews, Dex!, since it does come for the Old T.--I don't think it's necessary). This just keeps getting more and more confusing for me.
it's good to hear a first perosn account and know that that's possible, to take a maiden name as a middle name, because I've never known anyone that's done it. But it's a good idea. And the cool thing is, my last name can also be used as a first name, if I had a son. One of my best friend's nephew has my particular surname as a first name.
i'm not particularly attached to my surname. i'd consider taking my wife's name when the time comes.
but she says she's likely to drop it once we have kids and such. I took her maiden name as my middle name. It urked my mom that I dropped my middle name, but she'll live. We are going to give all our kids her maiden name as their middle name, and my last name. So the first boy will be Logan Sherman Sporrong. And I can't remember our first girl choice right now, we waffle on it.
that's a good idea. h3renando doesn't have a middle name, so it would be perfect (and easy!) if he took my last name as his middle name. why didn't i ever think of that? a lot of my thinking was also that there aren't any male d0yle grandchildren, but i just looked at my picture on my desk of my little brother and (duh) he has our last name. he is not my father's son, but my mom kept her married name when they got divorced, so my brother is JAc0b D. that eases my mind a bit.
take a new last name entirely. Both the husband and the wife take a new name, instead of one taking the others name. However, if you really like both your last name and your guys last name... that doesn't seem like it would work for you.
Told my wife whatever she decided would be fine--to avoid making a complete sentence with a nasty end to it; this moral tale would have been Jen Spears Gunch....though this thought has crossed her mind occasionally (spearing me, that is) in some days of our marriage, it was sort of ridiculous.So she saddled herself with my clunker of a surname. She can go back any time she wants . . .
I look forward to having an easier-to-pronounce last name. My dad's not attached to it either, and has actually considered changing it himself. So I wouldn't think twice about it for my dad's sake. If anything, I might tack W@rg on as a second middle name; I think that's kind of a neat idea.Surprisingly, when my brother got married, he wanted Sarah to take our name... he thought it was a respect thing. I have no idea where he came up with that, but she agreed to give up W@tson.
I have an issue with the idea of being "given away" at my wedding. I think instead of "who gives this woman" I'd be more agreeable to "who blesses this union" or something similar.
Don't have giving away of the bride. Both the bride and groom come in, escorted by their parents (first the groom, then the bride). I think that's kind of cool.
...but I kinda like the 'giving away' part of a wedding. I just think that the groom should be given away as well. but warggle's idea sounds good too.
Some mothers *NEVER* give the groom away! (And some brides, too!)
Whatever.
Did you know Beck is engaged to the redhead in Dazed and Confused?
WOODERSON: Pink, my man. What's happening? Cynthia man. I like it man. Very nice.
PINK: Yeah. Red's a good color for you.
WOODERSON: My favorite color.
Who's Beck?
the flaming lips had the crowd of thousands sing happy birthday to beck and his fiancee because they are about to have a baby in a few weeks.
I love Matthew McConaughy (spelling?) in that movie. He's absolutely hilarious. They seem like an odd couple, but then most things about Beck are strange. Hernando told me that she's Giovanni Ribisi's twin sister, which I was not aware of.
that they are already married and are expecting a child this month.Oh, and Beck is a singer, he wrote, Devil's haircut, Loser, and many more songs that I am blanking on right now.
2 turntables and a microphone, debra, etc.
I was trying to figuyre out 2 turntables, and it was driving me nuts.
commonly known as "where it's at"
NYAAAAAA!:)
Selceted pictures from the wedding!
That was the most beautiful wedding I have ever been to. Man, what a great day!
Those are wonderful. Anna looks so beautiful. (Pedro, you look so beautiful, too. Okay, handsome. Distinguished. I don't think I've ever seen you "dressed-up."). Beautiful couple y'all are, inside and out.
The pictures are so beautiful Peter. Heaven certainly appears to have been smiling down, not just on the wedding but on the relationship that the wedding celebrated. I am so happy for both of you!
We really feel blessed in general, and especially that day. It was, honestly, the nicest day of the whole summer up in those parts.
you guys are some of the sweetest people i know. i am glad to have been a part of your wedding.also: alhp looks absolutely stunning in those pics. what a beautiful bride. pedro, you are also a handsome devil.
because she looks so much like you, Peter. She looks *nothing* like the last time I saw her! She was so short still then... that was what. 10 years ago? Yeah. About that.Dear lord has it been ten years?
In any case, lovely wedding pictures. Just beautiful. You looked wonderful, and alhp as well.
Sorry, Julia hit reply before I could say... Anna the first Anna I referenced was NOT wife but sister.
(finally!). September 18, 2005. Only took us 14 months from the engagement, but that's okay. This is so exciting, now that there's an actual date, and a place, and our minister has confirmed and everything. Yay!
isn't it exciting to know that it is set in stone now? I know I was excited.
I know! I feel the same way about your brother and sister. There is no way they were the little kids in The King and I!
(I'm not going for the traditional white wedding thing. Nothing against it, but it's not me...)
http://raspberryberet.com/jmlana.html I still can't post a darn link...
Gorgeous dress! I think that it'll suit you beautifully.
Beautiful! And it doesn't cost an arm and two legs!
Doth approve very much, and thank you Doyle, for sucessfully implanting in mine echoing brain a Prince song.I needs must now transfer this pain to an innocent soul....mu hahahaha!
I trust the taste of you people here, so thanks for the thumbs-up. The mother-in-law of my friend whose house we're having the wedding at (did that make sense) is a professional tailor, so she can shore up whatever needs to be done. I know it'll have to be shortened, as it's made for someone 5'8 and I'm 5'2.I love that Prince song.
You meant "Raspberry Beret," (also a good song) and I was thinking "White Wedding"--which isn't even Prince but Billy Idol (right?). Never mind, I'm an idiot.
I shall wreak a terrible and swift vengeance upon you!
www.getthekidshitched.comIf anyone has any pictures or nice reasons as to why people should donate to help pay for Baggs and Jackie's wedding you could e-mail them to me (at smaxx dot com) or post them here.
I just went to the site to see if there was anything really up on it yet, but alas no.... Jeremy, are you going to put pictures up? I want to see Jackie...
may as well announce it sooner rather than later. hernando and i have called off our wedding for september. it's not cancelled, nothing like cold feet or relationship issues, just postponed. we both have a looot going on right now and as much as we want to start our life together (well, we already have done that, but officially and legally), there are some things career and school related which we'd rather have more established. i've also been making some rather overwhelming and heavy life changes lately (merucymouth, raskol and a few others know what i'm talking about), and i need to focus on that for now. so, once further developments have been made, i will put the word out. i have a beautiful wedding gown waiting in my closet and it will just have to wait a little longer. other than that, all we had nailed down was the place and the minister, and they've been very understanding and think this is the right thing to do for now.
Well, congratulations on making wise choices that work best for you, Cinn! I mean, a wedding done at the wrong time for either or both of you wouldn't really be anything to celebrate... Keep us up to date as your plans redevelop. I'll keep you guys in my prayers.
t-2 days for my hitched-ness Nervousness setting in
Getting married in about 5.5 hours, and im in need of a stiff drink already. The fact that I get red when i have 2 ounces of beer, let alone a stiff drink, shies me away from doing this immediately before the wedding. Someone could make a killing on safe tranquilizers for groomsmen and bridespeople.
...it's gonna be great!
everything was indeed fine and fun. all of you guys that went: bags and jackie, bigj and meagan, pat, evan, gene, mike m, anyone else from here who has a handle that i wont ever remember, i hope everything was fun for you all. i had a dandy time. I apologize to anyone who was screwed over by our catering staff, whom we will be dealing with in the very near future, and not in a pleasant way. Yes...very cool that everybody was there and heating up the dance floor. Thanks guys.if anyone wants to take some sparkling wines and various leftover bottles from me, call your dibs. The Don Julio is still 1/3rd full, and will not be used in this household. I think that's the gem of our cache, from what ive heard.
Jackie and I had a blast. thank you so much for having us as part of your wedding. It was a good time, and good to see some people i hadn't seen in forever.also, now Jackie knows i can dance (i'm not good, but she thinks i am) so now she is going to drag me out to go dancing, which i'm not too keen on.
also, thanks alot to whoever let the bachelor party events slip in front of Jackie. she wasn't too happy. she's over it, but i didn't want her to worry about it. (i think it was Carini)
Come on dude did you really think she would never find out when she was spending the whole evening with us, I wasn't going to slip up, but I knew someone would. It was a good effort though. How is she going to react to your bachelor party? And who's your best man so I can arrange the details with him, I'm guessing it's the Amazing Arizona Autosales Champ, as I like to call him, but that's just an educated guess.Fook, your wedding was wonderful. You and Mary looked very happy and I was glad to see that. James was looking quite dapper in his little tux too. We all had a great time, and Meagan said she loved it. I hope you had fun as well, I know how much work those things are.
Have fun in Disneyland, or Disneyworld, whichever you are going to I never heard the same one twice. They are both a lot of fun regardless.
James told me I probably smell like poo :(
in any case, if you're sittin there, with your significant other, and someone starts blabbing about the bachelor party in front of the significant other, that person is a doofus. I guess the lesson to be learned is that if you leave a lady behind to goto a strip club, you'll not always keep things hidden..you cant just slip in and slip out victoria
er...i meant victorious
Im so darned clever
no big deal. she's over it. she was more upset that i didn't tell her, which i understandable. however, when she asked me, it was in front of her parents. i wasn't going to tell THEM where we went. i just forgot to tell her the truth of the matter afterwards. i'm not mad, i only have myself to blame.ps - James rules. especially when he's giving Tony a hard time.
mary posted some wedding photos. James steals the page.
Y'all look so beautiful and happy.
I like number 41 of the two of you looking at each other, it's so cute, aw shucks I'm blushing.Er um yeah baseball and football and stuff. arrgh.
james is the man. i especially liked when someone asked him who his girlfriend was and he said "Tony."