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What are the top ten worst movies that you've actually seen -- and not movies that you have seen under the pretense of them being bad movies (no Plan 9 from Outer Space) -- but movies that you saw thinking they could be good, or were shown by someone else, etc, but were either too awful or so completely overrated that you have no interest of watching it again. I suppose I should leave room for those movies that you think you should probably give another chance to... but maybe there's a reason you haven't quite gotten around to seeing it again...
- alien ressurection
- the newton boys
- boondock saints
- the world is not enough (to redeem this movie)
- the english patient
- confessions of a dangerous mind
I can't think of any others offhand...
Boy...i liked the english patient and newton boys alot. But then again, I bet most of these choices will be movies that someone thought was good, but we personally thought sucked...so that's cool. MOst of my choices are like that, but some I just have to include for how terrible they are.
1. 8 1/2 Women
2. Brazil
3. Blue Velvet
4. Young Einstein
5. Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas
6. Fatal Instinct
7. Raising Arizona
8. Alien3 (I didnt see Resurrection)
9. Shanghai Triad
10. The Flintstones
I am laughing so loud right now I can hardly type because Pedro mentioned the Newton Boys (YOUR'RE A BANK ROBBER AND A BIG LIAR!) and then poor Fook pretty much unknowingly stuck his foot in some ready-made ridicule for admitting that he liked it... Fook- some [very good] advice, don't admit that while actually in the presence of any Burgh RA from the 97-98 school year.... (this includes Don Pedro)
-200 cigarettes (hello, don't try and make a woody allen movie if you're not woody allen, thanks. oh, and dont have the gaul to put elvis costello in your movie if you cant actually get elvis costello to be in your movie)
-empire records (when they write the history books on my generation-- people born '75 to '85???-- they will mark this film as the beginning of the end)
-star wars episode one (holy smokes, spaceballs is more authentic star wars than this load of crap. i could go on for days about how big a let down this movie is.)
-star wars episode two (even after the major let-down of the first one i had hopes for this but was let down even more. its the same lame-ass movie minus a muppet and plus 5,997 impossible-to-follow plot lines.)
-black and white (IT HAS LIKE HALF THE WU-TANG IN IT AND STILL SUCKS!!!! HOW IS THIS POSSIBLE!?!?!?!)
-higher learning (textbook heavy-handed writing. it seems any movie that tries to adress the issue of racism and has big name hip hop stars in the cast is doomed.)
-sixth sense (suprise endings are great, but not like this. please. you cant start a movie as a thriller and then have your suprise ending be a punchline.)
-snake eyes (just about my favorite movie trailer ever, though. and the 15 minute continuous shot at the top is rad, but turn it off after that.)
-sid and nancy (for the love of god this movie is so un-punk its ridiculous)
-chinatown (i know this movie is supposed to rock balls, but it seriously bored the shit out of me... i should probably give it another try, i know.)
1. SLC Punk - if you thought Sid and Nancy missed the punk boat... 2. The Avengers - Uma, you should fire your agent. 3. Simon Birch - Oliver Platt, talk to Uma. 4. Mission To Mars - Anyone want to watch a 2 hour Dr. Pepper commercial starring Don Cheadle and the fat kid from Stand By Me? 5. Empire Records - Craptacular! 6. Episode One - I watched this movie every night for a month. I am all too aware of it suckiness.
i liked this movie. why? well, it was a good drama. i don't think it missed the punk boat completely. sure, they were catching some watered down 5th wave of punk, but they were living the punk lifestyle. parties, scoring, actively pursuing disrespect to authority, etc. and matthew lillard's rant about the people who were all british flags and shit was pretty right on. and heroin bob's death was pretty tragic. there is a sense of mourning and loss captured well in this movie, i feel. and the message at the end about 'changing the system from the inside' hits a mark of reality for me. i mean, sure, when you're 17 and have nothing better to do, fight the system, man. idealism is alright then. but when it comes down to it, you're not going to be taken seriously unless you actually get out there and stand up for something and do something about your values, whatever they may be. although i don't think you necessarily need to become a lawyer to acheive this goal, but... it was one way to go. i also love the classic line his father says 'i didn't sell out son. i bought in.'
ok... my major beefs with SLC punk...1. i didnt get that it was supposed to be set in the 80's until like 45 minutes into the movie! despite all the "fuck reagan" grafitti. i guess lame american punk-revival scenes all look the same regardless of decade.
2. the lame kid who plays the lead (aka the killer dude from scream and shaggy from he scooby doo movie) bugs the shit outta me. like he seriously needs to die. they totally should have had edward furlong play that role cause that kid is on heroin for real.
other than that... i'm backing this flick.
Ok, I just did this in another entree, but here's my input:1. The Four Feathers. How can a two-hour film feel like four hours when Lawrence of Arabia flies by?
2. Pleasantville - I almost walked out of the theater, but I wanted to get my money's worth
3. Wild Wild West - I saw it at Blockbuster once - it wasn't even worth using a free rental.
4. Phantoms - i can't believe I watched the whole thing.
5. Supernova - Even worse than Event Horizon and Pitch Black. And I don't mind bad sci-fi.
I've seen some other movies that I remember thinking that was the worst movie ever after viewing, but I've luckily blocked those titles from my memory so the above list will have to do.
- Mission to Mars -- ugh, when are they going to make a decent movie about the exploration/colonization of mars?
- Sweet Home Alabama -- this just sucked in general
- Impostor/The Minority Report -- it hurts to watch PKD stories turned into tripe
- AI -- I even own this one and it never gets any better
- Episode I -- make it stop
- Dog Park -- don't ask
"but they were living the punk lifestyle. parties, scoring, actively pursuing disrespect to authority, etc."If you think that there is or was a "punk lifestyle" and that the SLC Punk accurtately depicts such a lifestyle, you, like this movie, are under the influence or revisionist history and misinformation. You are confusing punk with Mall Punk. The only thing remotely punk in the movie was the non-punk character who was hard as nails and couldn't be faded.
btr
Dave
so if the movie was called 'SLC Mall Punk' would you be ok with it? because it was describing a 'scene' however lame and mall-esque it was, that occurred in Salt Lake City.
so, tell me about punk then, since i seem to have no clue. everybody seems to have their own definition of the word every place i look, and they're all different. i have more to say regarding this movie, but i will wait until you weigh in so i can work from the same page.
...is a way punk movie.
1. The Way of the Gun2. True Romance
3. Dead Man
4. Get Shorty
5. Star Trek: Nemesis
6. Zoolander
7. Alien: Resurrection
8. Angel Eyes
9. Jurrasic Park 3
10. Rounders
Rounders is one of my favorites. its great. why did you hate it so much? i've probably seen it at least 50 times. and i own it.
Get Shorty is cool, I think.
If you accept that the punks were/are outsiders rebelling against the value structures of the mainstream, then punks, by definition, should be considered social outcasts. As such, they would rarely be at parties like the ones depicted in SLC Punk. Parties, in general, seem to contradict punk.When you talk about scoring, are you talking about drugs or sex?
Also, punks did not actively seek out an authority structure to rebel against. Punks did not accept the idea that authority or mainstream constructs even existed in the first place, so rules and most social norms could not be applied. Like the guy in SLC Punk who did not "dress punk", have a mohawk or piercings, but still kicked a lot of ass.
Punk lifestyle? Run that one by Dillinger 4 or my favorite punk band, Low.
btr
Dave
1) Defending Your Life. I'd forgotten that this movie existed until I flipped past it tonight while waiting for a coat of sealant to dry.2) Pulp Fiction. I mean, I watched it several times and I tried really really hard to see past the contrived exterior for what I'd heard of as 'the beauty within'. I missed it.
3) Event Horizon. Wow. This sucked more than anything has ever sucked before. I don't even need to explain why it sucked - I can't think of anyone I've talked to that didn't agree this was one of the worst movies of all time.
4) Dune. I mean, I love the books. But the movie... was just sad because I hoped for more, for better. Maybe the miniseries that Sci-Fi did/is doing will be better. I guess it wasn't a bad movie in and of itself, but because I had high hopes, it bummed me out.
5) Pretty Woman. I like a good chick flick now and again, but not this one. It's too... sickly.
6) Ace Ventura. Maybe it's because I dislike Jim Carrey. In fact, most anything with Jim Carrey in it I will dislike.
7) What was that Pauly Shore movie where they were in the biosphere? Biodome? Well, whatever it was, it sucked.
8) Natural Born Killers. Death by being bored.
I can't think of any more. I turn movies off and forget about them when I dislike them, usually. So I'm at a loss here. I hated Seven but I recognize it was a technically 'good movie.' I am not a fan of any type of Japanamation. I hate scary movies, unless they're REALLY well thought out.
I rented Ravenous and Trekkies on the same night. Trekkies was scarier by far.btr
Dave
"'If you accept that the punks were/are outsiders rebelling against the value structures of the mainstream, then punks, by definition, should be considered social outcasts. As such, they would rarely be at parties like the ones depicted in SLC Punk. Parties, in general, seem to contradict punk.
When you talk about scoring, are you talking about drugs or sex?
Also, punks did not actively seek out an authority structure to rebel against. Punks did not accept the idea that authority or mainstream constructs even existed in the first place, so rules and most social norms could not be applied. Like the guy in SLC Punk who did not "dress punk", have a mohawk or piercings, but still kicked a lot of ass.
Punk lifestyle? Run that one by Dillinger 4 or my favorite punk band, Low. "
ok shred. i see your point. yeah, the characters in this movie don't fit that definition of 'punk'. they are definitely more of a social construct, and a group of scenesters and adherents to a genre, not an ethos, or anti-ethos for that matter. but, i think it could be said that in the evolutional continuum of the meaning of 'punk' there was a point in time where the events and people and ideals of the characters in SLCPunk WERE 'punk'. whether you view that shift in meaning as good or bad, or justified or not. and perhaps in the grander scheme, the term IS a misnomer. but, if you can let the semantic flaws slide, i think you can find a good movie here. if not, i understand.
re: scoring - i meant drugs more than sex.
the guy who didn't dress punk was pretty hardcore. the euro-trash dude with the gun, we're talking about, right?
i keep meaning to listen to Dillinger 4. i guess you'd recommend them?
maybe im still not understanding how a lifestyle is antithetical to the meaning of punk. care to elaborate on that one?
But I always thought the nature of punk extended beyond lifestyle. Punk isn't necessarily anything tangible, but is a reaction to things tangible.D-4 is a good band to use as an example of punk beyond lifestyle. They are not punks because they are in a band. They are in a band because they are punks. Does that make sense?
Low is a better example. Low was formed when Al's band Zen Identity was getting jerked around by record labels. Then Al took the rules he had followed in Zen and broke them for Low. They signed to a subsidiary of Virgin that shortly went bankrupt. It took Low a while to dig out. But now they have their own label and they are the ones deciding which rules to follow. See also Pearl Jam deciding not to do videos.
btr
Dave
i follow you.
i've always felt that punk could or should be more than a reaction, however. not in that it becomes something tangible, like you said above. more in that it becomes pro-active, instead of merely reactive. because, in the end, reactions are still partially defined by something else, something not of our choosing. not that this really has much to do with slc punk, or movies. i will start a punk thread now.
dex. Those movies really do suck, especiallybut with an exception of
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- 8)
they sucked soooo well that they bordered on good, of course, most people don't like the movies I like, see: my top 100.
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if this is the top worst movies, is number one on the list the worst (like, this is the number one worst film) or is it the last one (like, i hate these, but number one is the best out of all of them)?
In no order:
Star Wars I Star Wars II High Crimes A Merry War Howard the Duck
1. Fight Club - I had a friend who just wouldn't quit talking about it. Didn't like it the first time in the theatre, didn't like the second time on video either.
2. Lawnmower Man 2 - Lawnmower Man was fun and somewhat interesting. Lawnmower Man 2 was painful.
3. I Got the Hook Up! - I was oh so fortunate to catch this on TV. If anybody knows who rapper Master P is...this movie needs no introduction. I hate this movie so much.
4. Erin Brockovich - Oh this is a real sizzler.
5. The Waterboy - Or any Adam Sandler movie for that matter.
6. Any movie with Jennifer Lopez
7. Any movies with rappers turned actors
8. Any movies with talking animals or babies
9. The Fast and Furious - "Dude, check my tricked out ride!"
10. Any movies with Martin Lawrence
where's my car?
where's you car dude?Dude you have tattoo!
...even Out of Sight? I actually liked it quite a bit.
I swa the Four Feathers this weekend. I rented it on DVD. I had been anticipated seeing it for quite awhile... A woman in my church had loaned me the original so that I would be able to compare it to the new old. I hadn't really liked the old one, found it a bit tedious, but had high hopes for them improving the story-line a tad in the remake... And, it has Heath Ledger who I have a little pretend crush on (I am not stupid enough to have a real crush on anyone who dated Heather Graham...). Anyway, I was disappointed. It was worse (more boring) than the original, and that is saying something. So I agree with the folks who put that on their lists.
Why won't I just preview my posts? Thank you all for being so kind and not pointing out my grammar errors which have been rampant recently. I would like to say that I would be as kind to you... but this may not be the case... So, pat yourselves on the back and say, "I'm a better person than Amy."
I liked it!I thought you liked it, too, OutsideInfluence! The things one learns...ah me.
We went to see it with my sister, who is possibly the biggest Trekkie alive (though to meet her, one would never suspect). And she hated it. She seemed to be in a shocked silence the whole car ride home, which, if you know my sister, is a rare state for her. I think it's because one of her favorite characters dies at the end.
We went to see it on a Friday night, and I don't think I am exaggerating when I say it spoiled her (my sister's) whole weekend. I even talked to my dad a few days later and he said, "I think that movie really got Sarah down." That is a significant statement, coming from him.
Personally, I hate nearly all movies, and thus have no business being on this entree. Because I would diss 75% of all movies I've ever seen, and offend countless people here.
Though I agree that "Dude! Where's My Car!" is perhaps the worst movie ever made.
Dude! Where's My Car was soooo bad it was good!
much like I enjoyed Joe Millionaire. But DWMC...was just so bad, it sucked.
Please pass on to your sister (one of the coolest, non-geeky Trek fans I know), that I had to restrain myself from bashing Nemesis all the way home because my dad liked it and he was in the car. And when you take a parent to a film, it's almost always more important to spend the time than whether the film was any good. So anyway, tell Sarah I said hi.
OK, I didn't see it, but whenever I hear the name I always think of Steve Martin's Oscar bit where he said that "after treading the book, the preview totally ruined it for me." Ha Ha
Rent the the DVD and watch the commentary. Trust me, it's funny. The movie DID stink, except for the first scene.
...<dude one> heh heh... heh...
<dude two> hehe.....
<dude one> [toke]
<dude two> heh... heh heheeeee
<dude one> heh heh... hehe...
<dude two> [long toke]
...
I didn't really like Dumb and Dumber or There's Something About Mary. maybe someone can explain the humor to me sometime.
Well, I liked Nemesis too CinnamonGirl. I was really upset when Data died at the end, but he's not REALLY dying obviously because of that whole Data memory transfer thing that happened. I always thought he was the most human charater in TNG. I mean, the movie was completely implausable, and we pretty much MST3Ked the whole thing, but I did like it.
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no that i know that data died, i guess i don't have to see the film..........
:-)
He died sacricifically to save everyone else, right? I'm assuming he didn't just get shot in the head or something.
He lowered himself into a pit of molten steel raising hist fist as his body melted, at the last minute he gave a thumbs up and then disappeared into the red hot metal. World saved!
i mean, seriously? like, terminator style or what?
Not seriously.But the Reply title should've had a spoiler warning. Bad form, dex.
For the money, I thought Nemesis was a long episode. And it was good for a long episode. There are some issues with storyline that could've been tightened up. They could've explored the political intrigue of Romulus a little more and flushed out some of the supporting characters. That would've helped. I wanted more tension between Warf and Riker, but all in all, I liked the resolution.
btr
Dave
I forgot I was supposed to put spoiler in the title.He died from sulpheric acid corroding all his sockets when he tried to untangle a love triangle between the Borg Queen, Picard, and Q.
i've never been remotely interested in Star Trek. i had a friend in grade school who geeked super hard on that shit. i couldn't dig it. i would listen to his Weird Al Yankovic tapes while he watched that show. then we'd play nintendo.
I loved out of sight. I dont really mind Jennifer Lopez at all, actually. Though I've only seen Out of Sight and The Cell.
Jennifer Lopez, I don't know, I just can't look past her lifestyle. I SEE more of an immature, bratty, bitchy, snobby, overpaid tramp. Her acting will never break that image that I have of her no matter what character she plays. She seems to be in those filler garbage films like "maid in manhattan" and "enough" that clog the multiplexes every few months. The films that pay the bills. I just really hate that. I'm sure she choose those roles because of her dedication to the acting artform. Yeah right.
I totally agree. After she got famous, she's been in all those multiplexes. I hate her materialism and her recent choice in films...but before she got all famous, she was pretty cool.
"I don't really mind" her in the "two films that I've seen." Though i havent seen her newer movies, i can smell the fluff a mile away and don't like her role choices. Out of Sight was very low on the radar (and very underrated). The Cell was higher budget and had a larger visibility, but was done by a first time director, was very experimental and risky
I hated Magnolia and I forgot to mention it in my "worst movies" entry. And oh yeah...I'm gonna rent Swimfan and nobody is going to stop me!!!!!
magnolia is one of my favorites ever.
Magnolia is a great flick, and swimfan is just as bad as you think it is.
Magnolia is a great flick, and swimfan is just as bad as you think it is.
I thought Magnolia was ok... but, come on, frogs? with no seeming connection to anything else...I mean, I like a nice biblical reference as much as the next person but, FROGS?
I liked the randomness of the frogs.
i dont think the frogs are random at all. suprising or shocking? definatley. but not random. those frogs were there for a reason.i'm not picking on you you pedro, i just have a major beef with the over-use of the word "random" these days. very few things in life happen randomly, and it saddens me that so many wonderful occurances in peoples lives are brushed off as mere randomness.
although, i have to admit that my thoughts are not original. i came to this conclusion after reading a lot of douglas coupland.
What in the heck were they intended to mean/represent/allude to? If they don't have a purpose then they truly would be random in actual meaning.
I liked the apparent non-sequitur-ness of the frogs.
you said you liked the biblical refrence...why did the frogs fall in the bible? was it pure randomness there?
what was the purpose of the plagues? ultimately, to make things right again/to turn people right again/it's about divine intervention. what happens in that movie that is so extraordinary/tied to the plague/is that all of the characters sing together, "save me" all in different places but very much in the same place, needing change, needing redemption.
also, in the earlier scenes at the quiz show, somebody in the audience has a sign with the reference from the bible where the frogs fall. when i watched it the first time, i paused it, and looked it up. when i read that, i was like 'WTF?!?!?' but when it came to that point in the movie, i thought it was the coolest thing ever.
and i bought the DVD for my dad for christmas, because he really liked it too.
About halfway through Magnolia I didn't know what I thought about it. So much tension. But it turned out to be nearly perfect for the overall effect. Ultimately I think it was an amazing film. Most thoughtful movies made today aren't about redemption. And the fact that the screenplay was inspired by the Aimee Mann songs that are played in it (and not the other way around) is a testament to how amazing those songs really are. Aimee Mann is truly one of the most underrated artists out there.
I forgot to add two of the worst films ever. The Deep End was heralded by almost every critic that saw it, and I went in a group that included my sister and we ALL absolutely hated the film. It was a murder mystery with no murder and no mystery with terrible performances and an abysmal script that fancied itself much smarter than it ever was. I nearly walked out half way through, and I'm the most patient tolerant movie-goer that I know, but that movie will try anyone's patience.Also Dr. T and the Women. You almost have to rent it to understand HOW bad it truly is. Had it been Mr. T and the woman, I might have enjoyed it. I pity the fool that don't know I'm a gynocologist. He heh.
I was present at the world permeire, chicago film fest 2000...i know man... where the hell did Altman go wrong on this one? Oh, right.... hiring richard gere... that's right.
however, for as horrible a movie it is... it is a long, slow, painful buildup to a pretty good punchline-ending that i think warrants perhaps half-a-viewing.
wouldn't be compete as a list of horrible films if glitter wasn't at least mentioned once. so i did.
One-Hour PhotoThis movie was quite possibly the worst movie i have ever seen. everything is contrived. of course, being a movie, we know that. but, a good movie doesn't let it FEEL contrived. this was not a good movie.
the whole thing was setting you up, so obvious, for this nice, old, kinda quirky guy to snap. i mean, every scene i said to my dad 'ok this is where he's gonna do this' and then he does it. so disappointing. do they expect us to believe that this lady doesn't realize the guy is creepy from the get-go? i mean, seriously. everything he does is creepy. why does she act so friendly? and do they expect us to believe that it took them 9 YEARS to catch the discrepancies that got SY fired from his beloved job? also, taking pictures of somebody's child playing their front lawn and having them developed is not a crime. and it is not a threat. and it is not something police can get search warrants and go barging in peoples' homes for. puh-leeze.
dont even get me started on the 'pacing'. pacing my ass. someone went to the film school class where they said 'if you have extended periods in a film where NO action occurs, camera angles change subtly at best, and NO dialogue takes place, then you have DEPTH'. but they never stayed for the second class, where they said 'of course, if you have TOO many of these spots in a film, your whole audience is going to see right through you, and know how long you lasted in film school.' come on. watching this movie was like pulling teeth. actually, it was worse. because the dentist doesn't fuck around. he pulls and then you're done. these 'filmmakers' lollygagged and pussyfooted around with 'cinematography' and wasted perfectly good film. not to mention my perfectly good time, which could have been better spent alphebatizing my Boyz II Men CD's (hint: i don't own any Boyz II Men CD's).
the thing i can't get over is how many people i heard say this movie was good. i don't see ANY redeeming quality in this movie. i've seen and disliked plenty of movies. but i could see how other people might like them. this one, i just don't see it. someone explain to me, please, what makes this movie worth watching?
god was it horrible!! the blood from the eyes? COME ON!!
That's funny. I liked One Hour Photo and I haven't heard of anyone else who did. Certainly not the people I went with. Anycrap, I liked how sterile everything was and how the character wasn't really a psycho per se. The previews make it look like he's a psycho but he's just bent. Not like other villians in movies where they try to make them human and yet completely devoid of any good qualities. That said, has anyone ever seen She's So Lovely? I almost want to see it again to see if I missed something. I thought the end was just awful. Not that I particularly liked the beginning or middle either.
I liked One Hour Photo.Speaking of crap, has anyone seen The Sidewalks Of New York????
AHHHHHH....F_CK!!!!!!! IT SUCKS!!!!!!!!
I really liked both One Hour Photo and Sidewalks of New York. I thought that One Hour Photo has tremendous composition and acting. Sidewalks of New York was a great mockumentary about sex.
All too often i see people cite 'composition' and 'acting' or 'cinematography' or 'casting' or 'screenplay adaptation' as reasons why they liked a movie. fine. but for me, a movie has to fire on enough cylinders to work as a whole piece of art. maybe if i went to film school or some shit i could appreciate the more esoteric aspects of filmmaking. but i mainly see movies as storytelling devices. if they fail on those merits, i usually hate them. i can forgive a slightly-out-of-focus shot or blip in continuity or flawed acting (in some cases) if the movie as a whole tells a story well. not that film-as-narrative is the only valid function in movies today. but film-as-vehicle-for-making-some-point is sorta where i try to judge movies from. if things in the script are totally unbelievable (without giving me a reason to suspend disbelief), do not conclude, or leave out key aspects to my relating to a character in the movie, then i tend to judge them harshly.
I agree with you about the importance of story. From my perspective at least, when I mention something like cinematography or editing or acting as a reason that I like the film, it usually implies, or I think it would, that I already liked the film, and thought it was good, the story, the plot, etc. and that the element in question was the icing on the cake.But, there are always exceptions. Two that immedeiately come to mind are " Cube" and "Boys Don't Cry." In Cube, I really liked the film, but the acting was absolutely horrible. So I would make that disclaimer. Or in Boys Don't Cry, I didn't much care for the story, but Hilary Swank's acting was good. i appreciated her as a fellow actor.
For most of the films i see, and I see a lot, I either like the film or don't like the film. But the more I learn about filmmaking, the more I realize how complex the process is and how each element has to come together to make the film work. I've seen great stories absolutely ruined by bad editing, or bad acting, or poor sound. It's kind of like appreciating the rhythms, chord progressions, lyrics, and the individual performances of the musicians in a great song. Now, I don't know very much about music, and I usually just have it on in the background. But when i do really appreciate a song, I can appreciate it on many levels.
I hope I've made my point without sounding like a film snob, because I'm not. I watch (and like) more movies than most critics and film students. But I recognize the aesthetic value of a film and i appreciate it more for those things. I like Bill and Ted, for example, but I don't compare it to The Godfather. Anyway, let me get off my soapbox. i'm anxious to hear your thoughts, baggins, and anybody else who'd like to chime in.
I'm curious as to why you didn't like Sidewalks of New York.
i see your point re the analogy with music. and when i see a band that is solid, plays their instruments with skill, is catchy, has good tone, or whatever, i can appreciate that. but there is something else that makes it happen for me musically. something i can't put into words. i saw a band play tonight that was alright.
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they played some good covers
their guitarist was a shredder with some real chops
the sound at the place was good
it was only their second show together and they were very tight
the guitar tone was pretty good
the singer could really wail
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they did a lot of covers. like 8 of 12 songs or something.
they covered Pudddddle of Muddddddd
they covered bands that they sound too much like. in my opinion, if your band sounds a lot like AC/DC you shouldn't do an AC/DC cover. if your band sounds a lot like Radiohead you shouldn't do a Radiohead cover. etc. these guys sounded a lot like Pearl Jam, Soundgarden, Alice in Chains, and Audioslave. oddly enough, they covered all those bands. they did it well, but...
the sound they were acheiving is just so boring to me now. the bands that did it back in the day were doing something new (some of them still are). these guys sound like any generic hard rock band.
anyway, this should probably go in live show tacos or something, now. but, yeah. even if i can respect a lot of elements in a bands' sound or in a movie, there is something else i can't put my finger on that makes it or breaks it for me.
do you see my point that because you have an encyclopedic knowledge of music, you can make those types of criticisms, be they positive or negative? And because you are in a band yourself, you can appreciate various elements, separate from your overall like or dislike of the band. Am I making any sense?
i cannot say enough good stuff about "the whalerider"...both me and my kindest companion wept and it was just....wow...new zealand...wow...amazing...wow...how can a kid act like that....wow...i want to make movies.
i can see your point. but even if i appreciate specific elements in a band, they might suck overall. or, maybe, sucking isn't such a black and white thing.
Sidewalks of New York...I'm just sick of seeing movies where we see the "interlocking lives of sharp dressing city-folk." Nothing new here. How many interrelated people movies have been made in the past ten years?It didn't go anywhere...and the story was too dull for a feature film.
Of course, this is just my opinion and I really don't know filmmaking like a film student would know filmmaking.
What did you like about it?
new zealand films are generally good if you ask me, i suggest "once were warriors" i think it's a really good movie, of course, that was when i was 16 so maybe things have changed, if nothing else it's nice to see that other countries have problems too.
i didn't mean to write something good about a movie in the crap de la crap or whatever, sorry, i guess i got confused by all of the movie entrees. thanks for the suggestion, tom.
If anyone has seen a crappy movie before, I can only hope someone out there has felt my pain...... 1.Island on Fire (china) 2 Best of the Best 2 -????? 3 the Black Ninja 4 Double Dragon 5 The Isle (korean) 6 Black Momma- White momma 7 Street Fighter- the movie 8 West Side Story 9 Manos- the Hands of Fate 10 Scent of Green Papuya(Vietnamese) I just reminded myself that I have seen all of these films. I must cry to bed now.
I know I'm backtracking a whole lot, but I have some problems with fooks list.... I didn't see any responses if there were any in regards to his/ her list, but Brazil is a movie of pure beauty and terry gilliam is a mastermind, Fear and Loathing also being a gem in his pocket. Blue Velvet is also an incredible film and if you're going to put a Lynch film on your list it has to be Lost Highway. On top of all that, the first three Aliens are great in thier own respect. Resurrection should just die again or something. Overall fook is completely entitled to his/her opinion which i do respectand don't mean to offend.
Event Horizon - Yes!! I totally forgot about that movie. I remember being SO psyched about that movie. It had one of my favorite actors in Laurence Fishburne (yes, I liked him before The Matrix) and I remember catching a Behind the Scenes feature on HBO and thinking, man, this movie is going to be soo coool... why isn't anyone talking about it? IT SUCKED. THAT'S WHY.Zoolander - Even though it did have a few hilarious moments, mostly dumb.
Austin Powers - I know, some people are going to get all up in arms about this, but honestly... even though it did have a couple hilarious moments... mostly dumb. And I will gladly admit that some of this is cultural, that I just don't understand it. And maybe you're right. But damn, that movie is overrated.
Pleasantville - YES. Whoever mentioned that movie -- YES. I feel you. Thought it was going to be so good. And then they had to get all "masturbation = enlightenment" on me. Dag.
Big Momma's House - Okay, didn't see it. But come on... it has to be horrible. It just has to.
Bad Company - Anthony Hopkins and Chris Rock should have BOTH known better. [see: Big Momma's House]
Lord of the Rings: Fellowship of the Ring -- actually, I thought this movie was great. I just wanted to see if you were paying attention.
The Newton Boys - I thought the pain would ease over time, Pedro. But it didn't.
Making lists of this sort of thing is not something I'm good at, (Mostly because I want to forget this movies.) but one movie that immediately comes to mind is Hackers. I am to this day incapable of watching this movie straight through. I have to pause and go off and let the movie wear off a bit before I can see more.
Oh man, was that movie terrible.Here's the big emotional climax:
Love Interest just finds out the truth about her beau, Mr. Newton...
<girl> You're a bank robber! And a big liar!
It's just TERRRIBLE... there's absolutely NO reason why that movie should have happened. [insert crappy director's name] is a disgrace to the filmmaking profession.
and saw that juice said something about Island on Fire, or it might have been Island of Fire I think it said both in different places, but you all should see the movie just for the moment at the end when the subtitles stop and suddenly you're just watching a really bad movie in Mandarin, now that's good times! That and the subtitles make no sense, at one point in time they read "No go outside, it is hard raining." A laugh a minute.
is star wars christmas special bad! 3which is saying alot.
MSN's Bad Movie List of the Day
I had the IMDB equivalent open in another Mozillur tab when I read that post. Every time I look up a film in IMDB it seems to have a rating of about 7/10 so I was pleased to see that there is something of a spread. I am pleased to say I have seen none in their bottom 50 (apart from ones that were the subject matter for MST3k).The top 250 list seems to have an over-representation of very recent fillums. Of course, I only say that cuz I am an old fogey and believe that pictures like Casablanca and The Seven Samurai are the only ones worthy of classic status. What the heck is Fight Club doing above The Maltese Falcon? I can only assume that this is due to the enormous magnetism of Brad Pitt's Hair[tm].
Yeah, the modern movies always get voted higher than the classics. It's a crime.
I'm guessing that youngsters are more likely to be using this groovy new innurnet thing so the vote probably accurately reflects the demographic. The top ones aren't too bad. Apart from the heavy mafia overtones and Lord of the Rings entries the odd ones are Shawshank Redemption (#2!, it was good, but not that good), Memento (maybe a concerted vote for a non-standard Hollywood turn of the mill?) and Usual Suspects (what?).
i liked hudson hawk i little. but, regardless of that it did tank at the box office.
YOu can just chalk up Shawshank Redemption, Memento, and Usual Suspects with your "youngster demographic."
But it did better at the box office than Gigli did! Now that's fricken funny, in over two weeks it's made almost 6 million! Wow, now that's crap! But the number one losingest movie of all time still remains Cutthroat Island, it lost like 95 million or something, I haven't seen the numbers in a long time so I forget the accurate figure.
Actually, I love Shawshank. I think it deserves its place in the top ten.
I just got clued into this group by GNatural because it's at Cov Book. DON'T STOP READING! No, really. This is amazing. Think gospelly funk, with the lead instrument being a pedal steel. It's incredible. I'll make some rips and put them up here temporarily so you can take a wisten.
I missed that link, I don't always click on links because it takes too darn long to read through everything on the site if you include the links, but at least I was sort of right, I forgot about Pluto Nash, not bad off the top of my head. But I still say I liked Hudson Hawk.
a couple of things ...juice, I was reading your post, thinking, OK, here's someone who's really gotten into the spirit of the entree, I mean, Double Dragon is a really bad movie. But why in the world is West Side Story on your list? It's one of the greatest films ever, imho. Now I realize that I like musicals, but the editing and the cinematography alone (not to mention the songs and the dancing) makes it a cut above most other films. Why did you not like it?
To respond to Coney, I really liked Sidewalks of New York because it was filmed as a documentary and I thought that was a really ballsy move. Now, I am partial to documentaries, being someone who makes them, but the point of the film wasn't as much that they were interconnected as much as that their stories provideda commentary on the different facets of relationships in modern life. The interconnectedness was just a structural device, and I didn't take it seriously.
And Memento, The Usual Suspects and The Shawshank Redemption should definitely be ranked in the best films of all time. Not as high as they are on the imdb, but they should definitely be on the list. I mean, Citizen Kane flopped at the box office, and The Manchurian Candidate was banned for 20 years. But I think those three films will stand the test of time.
Don't ever see this movie. It has the guy from Buffalo 66, Bruce Willis's French girlfriend from Pulp Fiction, and a couple of other recognizable people. I think the South American drug guy from Clear and Present Danger. Anyhow, everything from the story to the editing (some dialogue didn't even match the mouth movements), to the characters totally stinks. It's awful. Speaking of awful dubbing, did anyone see Crouching Tiger on TV this past weekend? I was surprised at how they got a lot of the dubbed words to match the mouth movements but the effect for the movie was horrible. I remember the tone of that movie in the theater with subtitles being very effective but with dubbed English it made it seem like a joke. Totally lame.
Is there an example of a foreign film that was better dubbed than with subtitles? Anime doesn't count.
Better dubbed than subtitled :)
Most anime is better with subtitles, but I think that anime can get away with overdubs better than live action, that's all.
Mad Max?
At the behest of the sis-in-law, who wasn't to keen on any of our netflix selection, we went to blockbuster (first time in 5 months) and ended up coming home with The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen. It was sooo bad we didn't even bother finishing it. 100% tripe.
Mr. Hyde has the Hellboy arms?
I don;t have to be the one who does FEoTD... just someone