Roasted redvinegar
Roasted redvinegar
(null)Created 20 Apr 2002 at 18:56 UTC by pedro.
URL: http://redvinegar.net/
Notes:
Redvinegar is one of many artistic endeavours supported by Tastytronic Industries. Because they are untrustworthy, artsy types, opinions expressed here are not necessarily the opinions of Tastytronic Industries, it's affiliates or investors.
Formed in 1995, redvinegar combines influences of folk, classic rock, hard rock, country, and the ever present and so-called "alternative" rock (that's a lot of rock) to create a wholly pleasing blend of herbs and spices.
i heard from this guy that he knew someone that saw them play at some
bar in the woods or something. he said that they weren't so bad. they
sound kind of like genesis.
great band, posted 24 Apr 2002 at 08:48 UTC by lukas »
(Fixture)
I would also like to tell you of a band. They're called atwitter, and
I'm supposed to tell my friends.
goldfrapp, posted 24 Apr 2002 at 09:02 UTC by sneakums »
(Fixture)
I'm hopeless at describing music, soI'll merely state
that Ms. Goldfrapp has a wonderful voice, and point you to two sample
tracks from Felt Mountain: Lovely
Head and Utopia. I like
Utopia a lot; I sing it to myself.
gargargar, posted 24 Apr 2002 at 09:03 UTC by sneakums »
(Fixture)
I posted that to the wrong room...
Or did I?
I did.
dude, i totally remember atwitter! they ruled! grovy bass, screaming
vocals, blazing guitar, and that dummer was hot!
Upcoming Dates..., posted 29 Apr 2002 at 11:42 UTC by pedro »
(Tourist)
It looks like upcoming dates for redvinegar are:
May 10th, at the Hollywood, Bryn Mawr and Spaulding, ca. 9:00 PM
May 16th, at Goose Island North/Clybourn, ca. 9:00 PM
as you were.
Ok. So Moon is going to be out of town for the summer -- but before he
leaves, we're going to do some recording. North Park now has a digital
16-track, and Bill is always asking me when I'm going to go down there
and use his equipment.
So, after graduation, we're going to work up it looks like 5 songs: I
don't know where here is, matthew, sliding to you, peace of mind, and
"bob", and go in and do a good job on a "really nice demo". The kind of
thing that, if it turns out well enough, might be close to a low-budget
EP, or if it turns out ok, will just be enough of a demo to get us gigs
at places that need a CD.
But I feel like between Phil and I, we will be able to put together a
decent recording, and it's kind of exciting to think about that.
Since Moon is gone for the summer, we're not sure quite what we're going
to do, drummer wise. We have to look up some old ghosts that may still
be around -- but it's all up in the air.It would be cool to get some of
those paying gigs at the Wrigleyville GOose Island, although I sincerely
hope the crowd is more like 50 Tim McGinnisses, and not 50 Frat Boys.
But THat's the News from Lake Michigon.
hmmm, posted 1 May 2002 at 14:43 UTC by baggins »
(Fixture)
i don't know who tim mcginnis is, but anything's better than 50 frat
boys.
Goose Island, posted 11 May 2002 at 18:45 UTC by dogmanphil »
(Fixture)
This week redvinegar will be playing at goose island. Thursday, the
16th. at 9:00pm. it should be a great time as usual. it will be aan
important show as aaron will be off for the summer. so, come and wish
aaron well. "tell your friends."
the goose, posted 14 May 2002 at 15:53 UTC by lukas »
(Fixture)
have fun and drink some summertime kölsch for me. That or some
dopplebock, hex nut, demolition 1800 ale, london porter, or goose pils.
Man I miss the goose. Anyway, rock on and have fun.
goose island, posted 14 May 2002 at 18:46 UTC by sneakums »
(Fixture)
I endorse the hex nut brown ale. Somebody mail me a keg!
I enjoyed decent tea for the first time in months but now will have to
work out some way of returning the favour.
...and make sure you keep your eyes out for Three Floyds Alpha
King.
last night was great. i think we played well, there were some problems
with pete's guitar volume or monitor volume. but, over all i think we
played better then past shows at goose.
set list
1.
indiana
2. peace of mind
3. bob
4. i don't know where here
is
5. matthew
6. sliding to you
haven't heard you guys do that one live. i really dig it.
aaron moon, posted 21 May 2002 at 15:27 UTC by dogmanphil »
(Fixture)
hey, aaron might be in chicago for the summer which would be rad. but,
we need to help him find a job. so if any of you have any idea's or
know of anything suitable for moon let us know. oh and if you know of
anyone looking for a roomate too.
Hey all,
One week from tonight, redvinegar is playing at The Lyon's Den, 1934 W.
Irving Park -- this is an important show, because it can get is on the
schedule for regular gigs at the Lyon's Den if we can show that we can
create enough of a draw. So please come out! The Lyon's Den is a cool
place with a great sound system and great food.
Here's the official announcement from our mailing list.
Redvinegar has two dates slated for August -- Aug. 17th at Goose Fest,
and Aug. 30th at the Wrigleyville Goose Island. Please plan to come see
us play if you can, especially on Friday the 30th. For more info, see
our website.
Also, if you're not on our email list, subscribe!
webpage, posted 3 Aug 2002 at 12:48 UTC by dogmanphil »
(Fixture)
the webpage has been updated for your viewing pleasure!
that is
all.
re: pics, posted 4 Aug 2002 at 01:00 UTC by baggins »
(Fixture)
i remember taking pictures with your camera at a Goose Island show,
PhillyPhil. are any of them good? are any of them on the webpage?
maybe, posted 4 Aug 2002 at 10:25 UTC by dogmanphil »
(Fixture)
i don't remember which roll or evn which night that was. i'd have to
show you all the pictures and see if they look like ones you would have
taken.
if i remember correctly, it was the night that P.E. Carlson played a
couple songs with y'all. i don't know. i was just wondering. cool pix
at any rate.
We should definitely have some kind of photo credits page.
Aaron Moon is staying out east this year, working with Americorps and
taking a year off from school... this means that redvinegar needs to
find a drummer.
In other news, the August 17th Goosefest gig has been canceled for us,
due to a number of things, not related to Aaron Moon.
Stay tuned...
You are the first to hear it: Erik P. Anderson is planning to fill in on
drums for redvinegar this year. How
cool is dat?
are you serious? , posted 15 Aug 2002 at 02:24 UTC by baggins »
(Fixture)
i didn't know he was well-versed enough in the drumitude universe. but
that's cool. does that mean you'll be doing covers of Slayer soon?
He's going to take a drumset up to his cabin in Sept. and practice a for
a month and a half off and on. That should be good enough to play rock
and roll.
I think I will emblazon one of my shirts with the phrase "practice
makes adequate", and wear it each moment that I am bulking up for my
audition with red vinegar. My new idea is to build a raft when I am up
north and anchor a drum kit to it, setting myself adrift among the
autumn squalls of Lake Superior. I will need no food, as the grains of
rock and roll shall sustain me, and I shall drink from the bounty of
Gitche Gummie. Setting off a pretender to the throne, the winter winds
should bring me drifting into Chicago via Lake Michigan mid October,
though the keen ear might hear the tribal tatooing reflect off the
waves long before the bearded apparition appears. I am Odysseus, back
from the dead, and I shall string my bow and tighten my drumheads to
reclaim what is mine, the beauty of Penelope and the lands of Albany,
O! blessed realm of red skies and rivers of vinegar!
But you really might want to call Paul Garcia, who will tell you just
how terrible I really really REALLY am. Please believe me!
i was thinking that now erik is in the band maybe some of the fans in
l.a. might move back to chicago to see us. just a thought.
band photos, posted 18 Aug 2002 at 00:21 UTC by pedro »
(Tourist)
Man, we SERIOUSLY need to get some band photos with Erik in them. And he
needs to at all times on stage have a fan blowing his hair around, just
like the guy in Soul Asylum.
I'm just going to note for the record here, that having Erik as your
drummer is going way overboard on the rock-band-member stereotype
issue. Even can manufacture several bad British, and at least one bad
Central European vaguely Slavic accent that I can recall, offhand. . .
but at least there's no hope of him having eternal life a la Keith
Richards . . .at least I hope . . .
Ha ha, I mean. What a band name eh? It is zee ASYLUM uuf zie
SOOOOOOOOOUL! That's just so band namish!
Friday, 10:00, FREE ($0), GOose Island Wrigleyville 3535 N. Clark.
redvinegar will rock your face.
Our flyers.
"we're redvinegar, tell your friends!"
...I'm starting to get a little nervous.
Tune your instrument before the show starts... that'll definately help.
tuning, posted 30 Aug 2002 at 12:48 UTC by sneakums »
(Fixture)
No way! Redvinegar is the band that tunes before every song!
You can't go wrong with a great gimmick like that!
done before, posted 30 Aug 2002 at 13:21 UTC by nutella »
(Fixture)
One of the live Hendrix shows has him claiming that they'll tune up
before "every single song" - but then deciding against it as "only
cowboys play in tune".
good one, blvdgirl.
tuneage, posted 30 Aug 2002 at 13:55 UTC by pedro »
(Tourist)
We actually are planning on doing that.
How?, posted 30 Aug 2002 at 16:01 UTC by nutella »
(Fixture)
Would this be done by you going "aaaaaaaahhhhhh" and then everyone else
tuning to that? ...or do you have a harmonica.
the show!, posted 3 Sep 2002 at 16:25 UTC by pedro »
(Tourist)
So, basically real quick, since I shoudl be working right now:
The show on Friday went great! Next to a couple technical glitches, it
really went better than we could have possibly expected, and they want
us back ASAP!
I love to hear you tune... I'm glad the show went well.
haha, , posted 4 Sep 2002 at 09:38 UTC by pedro »
(Tourist)
Thanks, Amy. :)
great show., posted 5 Sep 2002 at 15:32 UTC by baggins »
(Fixture)
really cool that so many people came out. im glad that they want you
back.
rumor has it, posted 5 Sep 2002 at 21:55 UTC by dogmanphil »
(Fixture)
i guess there was 150 to 160 people there to see us. thats what someone
heard the goose island people say. wow...wow!
rawk!, posted 13 Sep 2002 at 08:53 UTC by lukas »
(Fixture)
I have been notified that I have a personal day to burn before December
14. So you hobes beter have a show before then so I can drive all night
to Chicago to party down. I'm beginning to be semi-serious about this.
totally dude! we are planning it. that would be so money!
HA!, posted 13 Sep 2002 at 12:05 UTC by inkblot »
(Fixture)
HA! HA! WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! THAT WOULD KICK SO MUCH BOOTY!
pedro and i were thinking that we (rv) should start doing more covers.
not more as in adding a ton of covers to our set list but, learning a
cover for each show and then another next show and so
on.
so, what do you kids think?
what would you like to hear redvinegar play?
what covers do you think we should do?
let us know and maybe we'll pull it out at the next show!
i'd love to hear In My Time of Dying (sorta in the vein of Bob Dylan's
version). shit, i think i might even sing it for you, if you made me.
hmmm... which others? well, i don't expect to hear them, but i think RV
could pull these off well:
How It Feels To Be Something On (the song) - SDRE
California Dreamin - The Mamas And The Papas
Destination Zero - Bluestone
Patience - GNR
No Quarter - Led Zeppelin
Van Diemen's Land, When Love Comes To Town, or All I Want is You -
U2
You Shook Me All Night Long - AC/DC
Gimme Shelter - Rolling Stones
Superstition - Stevie Wonder (how much ass would this kick?)
Let's Go Crazy - Prince
What's The Frequency Kenneth? - REM (im not much of an REM fan at all,
but i dug this song, and i could definitely see RV playing it well.)
XO (the song) - Elliot Smith
No Woman No Cry - Bob Marley and the Wailers
Witch's Invitation - C.A.R.M.A.N. (im obviously kidding big time)
Fat Bottom Girls - Queen
Suite: Judy Blue Eyes - CSN or CSNY, im not sure which incarnation it
was.
Jack and Diane - Jon Cougar Mellencamp
Pour Some Sugar On Me - Def Leppard (only half kidding here)
Kickstart My Heart, or Home Sweet Home - Motley Crue
Eruption, or Hot For Teacher - Van Halen
More Than Words - Extreme
Fought In a War - Belle and Sebastian
-How It Feels To Be Something On (the song) - SDRE
maybe sometime
we'll do a sunny day song but, not now. more likely we'll do a jeremy
enigk tune.
-Destination Zero - Bluestone
great band! always thought that the bass player was holding back. he
should really just let loose. as for covering "zero" no way we could
pull that off. but, there is a song that i have always wanted to
do.
-No Quarter - Led Zeppelin
i just heard a song on the radio that i had never heard before. more
acoustic than the others. i don't remember the name but, i thought it
was a song that we could do.
-Van Diemen's Land, When Love Comes To Town, or All I Want is You -
U2
i have always dug van dieman's. i did love comes to town at a winter
retreat in highschool. redvinegar covered all i want is you at my
wedding. but, pedro and i have talked about one or two other that we
might do.
-Gimme Shelter - Rolling Stones
i love this song is one of my top five stones songs!
-Superstition - Stevie Wonder (how much ass would this kick?)
i'm no SRV!
-Let's Go Crazy - Prince
tim hates prince.
-What's The Frequency Kenneth? - REM (im not much of an REM fan at all,
but i dug this song, and i could definitely see RV playing it well.)
i dig rem and wouldn't have thought to cover one of there songs
but, i could see it. what's the frequency, i don't think pete would get
into.
-Witch's Invitation - C.A.R.M.A.N. (im obviously kidding big time)
we have a winner!
-Suite: Judy Blue Eyes - CSN or CSNY, im not sure which incarnation it
was.
i have always wanted to do a CSNY cover.
next show, posted 1 Oct 2002 at 09:57 UTC by dogmanphil »
(Fixture)
it looks like we will be playing the 25th of oct. at the goose island
in wriglyville. so, mark your calanders. this is the night before isaac
and megan's wedding. so, come and wish them well, have a pint and rock
with us. lukas gas up the tank and take that personal
day. also this will be oldpossumus' first show as the
new
drummer of redvinegar. he has been up in the minnesota cold with moon's
drums for about a month. here is a
quote from Hemingstein in a recent letter.
"as i beat a rythm on these old keys(typewritter), erik, outside and up
the hill in the garage, beats and beats on moon's drum kit. he has been
extremly diligent with his practising; i think he is pouring all the
stamina and spiritual reserve of a man who has recently written a
15,000 word masters thesis into his drumming.
in short, you picked the right ex(?)metalhead for the job."
Do you play in Pennsylvania?
Any shows November 9-16 in Chicago?
we will see what we can do. maybe at the north/clybourne goose for
their musicians showcase.
pedro what you think?
hey so we have another show at goose island
should be fun
blue stone is playing with us
erik anderson is making his debut
and i think there will be alot of people from the bbs
so, maybe ulyssess00 can walk around saying
"anyone for the bulletin board?"
no but, really who is coming?
lukas?
ake?
loser?
toastboy?
captain?
let us all know. that way maybe other will come out if they see that
Hemingstein or mercurymouth is gonna
be there too.
count me in, posted 17 Oct 2002 at 01:47 UTC by baggins »
(Fixture)
i wanna rock!
im trying to get some of the bowling cats to come as well. i think a
few will. im spreading the word to anybody who might remotely enjoy
hearing live music.
Count me out!, posted 17 Oct 2002 at 06:49 UTC by captain »
(Fixture)
I'm babysitting that night, so once again I miss out. Ho-hum.
ake would love to come, but he has to go to a baby shower. well, I am
not going to the actual shower, but I am going to mpls mn for janelle
to go.
i'll be there and so will jen. i think pedro will be there as well.
wow, posted 17 Oct 2002 at 23:39 UTC by dogmanphil »
(Fixture)
babysitting and baby showers is it just me or is ake and william
getting soft in there old age?
...but im pretty sure the captain is getting soft. have you seen him
lately? soft as a marshmallow, that guy.
posters, posted 18 Oct 2002 at 03:01 UTC by pedro »
(Tourist)
If you want to put up posters for redvinegar (flyers page), see Phil. We
printed up about 75 posters, and they're raddy-daddio.
Carlson: this means you -- sorry we didn't hook up on Wed. It was crazy.
Phil also has quarter sheet flyers and masters for you if you want to
make more.
come visit me!!!! I live right off of I-94 now...along the river. I'll
be driving back from chicago on friday the 25th and then I'll prolly
work noon-8 on sat and sun, but around that... if you have time...we
could walk along the river (not as impressive as the lake) and chat...
cloves, wool sweaters and hiking boots on a fresh fall day... we could
try to find the owl that lives near my house....
sorry guys that I can't make the concert, but I have to work in
minneapolis the next day
I plan on coming and dragging the Dahlin with. I haven't seen you all
yet, and need to prove that 2 years of daily exercise and drill
haven't crushed my spirit.
And if my wife lets me out of the house with more than 3 dollars . . .
who want to get me this T-
Shirt?
please???
they changed the page
here it
is.
well, it's about 19 hours away from the show. i just got back from
practice and talking with pete. i'm tired but, i have the day off
tomarrow. so, all is well. can't wait to see everyone. should be a good
time even if we weren't playing. good friends, good beer, good food,
good beer...
see you soon
black, posted 25 Oct 2002 at 05:48 UTC by baggins »
(Fixture)
dont you at least want the shirt in black?
yo.
this is grady.
pedro asked me to bring my MD player to the show tonite to do some
crazy bootleggin'. i AM going but am not sure how early i will arrive,
seeing as though i have a play to act in earlier this evening. if
anyone in the NP 'hood would like to do REDVINEGAR and MYSELF a favor,
gimme a call at 665-5858 and come by my place to get this mini-disc
player. that way we call all be assured that the entirety of this
evening's rock-splosion will be recorded and documented.
word.
weird, posted 28 Oct 2002 at 00:55 UTC by baggins »
(Fixture)
Peter
Carlson? or
Peter
Carlson?
Strange timewarp., posted 28 Oct 2002 at 08:17 UTC by pedro »
(Tourist)
[cue twilight zone music here]
weird, posted 28 Oct 2002 at 09:00 UTC by lukas »
(Fixture)
The first peter carlson is playing my bass and the second is playing my
amp-head at the wood.
The show did rock . . .made all the more so by Dooley wandering
around, beer in hand, telling stories of his second stint in defensive
driving school.
I'm going to hijack a tank and give it to him for his high-speed
dashes from Chicago to Valparaiso . . .
I just thought of something. I hurt myself every time I do that . . .
our name, posted 26 Nov 2002 at 01:51 UTC by dogmanphil »
(Fixture)
just so that everyone knows our name
is
redvinegar
not
red vinegar
oneword.
thanks.
hi phil, posted 26 Nov 2002 at 01:57 UTC by baggins »
(Fixture)
thanks redfuckinvinegar, you rock.
the lead singer of redvinegar now has the shortest hair in the band.
thats funny to me.
album cover, posted 7 Dec 2002 at 17:58 UTC by baggins »
(Fixture)
this pic
is so *im-a-sensitive-rock-star/artist*
next show, posted 13 Jan 2003 at 11:23 UTC by dogmanphil »
(Fixture)
saturday.feb.8.goose.island.3535.n.clark.10.pm.18.+.
mark your
calanders.
ok so..., posted 13 Jan 2003 at 23:48 UTC by ulyssess00 »
(Fixture)
18+ or 21+, 18+ if there's room.....?
18+, posted 14 Jan 2003 at 01:41 UTC by dogmanphil »
(Fixture)
but, anyone that is under 21 should be there by 10 because it will get
packed and after 11 goose becomes a bar not a resturant.
YAY!, posted 14 Jan 2003 at 14:49 UTC by Cinnamongirl »
(Fixture)
My favorite local band, live and in the flesh. I'll be there with
bells on!
surprise!!, posted 14 Jan 2003 at 17:44 UTC by dogmanphil »
(Fixture)
there will be a very special guest opening for redvinegar on the 8th.
should be a night to remember.
a week away, posted 30 Jan 2003 at 22:00 UTC by dogmanphil »
(Fixture)
well, the show is just a little more than a week away and we are really excited. practices have been great. honestlt things have never been better. i for one am really excited for the 8th because i just want people to hear what we are doing these days. tim (freakingfreak) said that he is really worried cause if it doesn't go well he will be that more upset cause3 he knows how great it is at practice and just hopes that comes out at the show. also, i can't wait to hear the slow learners play. if you don't already know their music your in for a surprise. they are really good. so, see you there. and remember if you or people your going with are under 21 make sure they are there before 10. that way we woun't run into the problems we did last time with people not getting in.
sigh, posted 1 Feb 2003 at 04:04 UTC by lieutenant »
(Fixture)
I have commission-oriented career-necessary contractual United States obligations that weekend, and since I'm usually up for these things at oh-my-gawd-it's-early I will not make the show.
Please, someone scarf a Granny Smith Woodchuck cider for me, or barring that, some bourbon.
lieutenant that's to bad. it would have been great to have you there. it's going to be a great show.
i wish i could be there with you guys. even in the snow and cold.
UPDATE!!!!!, posted 2 Feb 2003 at 23:15 UTC by dogmanphil »
(Fixture)
we were just informed that the show is 21+! so, please pass this on to anyone you knew that was going and is underage. we are dissapointed about this but, we don't really have any control over it. sorry. it still will be a great show.
mmm bourbon, posted 3 Feb 2003 at 18:24 UTC by ulyssess00 »
(Fixture)
i'll take care of that bourbon for you...right now...and then too.
mmmm no, posted 4 Feb 2003 at 00:44 UTC by ulyssess00 »
(Fixture)
neoacerbitas wrote that, not me.
besides, i'm more of a scotch guy.
a little unAmerican every now and now
Music starts at 10:00 PM with Slow Learners and then on to redvinegar.
we are really looking forward to tonight. good times, good friends, good beer, good food, and ok music.
Yeah! THanks for coming out! It was great!
least sweaty..., posted 9 Feb 2003 at 21:58 UTC by baggins »
(Fixture)
but somehow most punk...
Rock out, posted 10 Feb 2003 at 11:33 UTC by Cinnamongirl »
(Fixture)
You all tore it up Saturday night. The opening act was great and a nice surprise, not totally a surprise cause I knew who'd be involved, but I didn't know what sound to expect and was very impressed. Three talented lads there (and I never thought I'd hear Yeats' poetry put to rock music, or any music besides maybe an Irish drinking song, and that was very cool).
Redvinegar, as always, rocked the house. Great songs and I love the energy that's always there while the band's performing. Just watching them and seeing how into the music they are has me sitting there smiling like I'm high all night. I never would have known Pedro was sick if he hadn't mentioned something about taking Theraflu after the show.
And just as great as the music was seeing a lot of people I haven't seen in a while and really missed. Excellent night, thanks to all.
thanks!, posted 10 Feb 2003 at 17:54 UTC by dogmanphil »
(Fixture)
we had fun too.
i think i know of a secret admirer of yours.
Hmm..., posted 11 Feb 2003 at 11:03 UTC by Cinnamongirl »
(Fixture)
Secret Admirer? I'm ingtrigued...unless it was that guy who was all over me at the SL/RV show. Oh wait, that was my boyfriend.
You rule, Baggins, and I miss seeing you more often. Let me know the next time y'all meet for pool at the 'Wood, although pool is possibly the thing I am very worst at in the whole world.
Pedro, I hope you are feeling better. You guys rocked nonetheless.
just somebody i know who thinks you're pretty damn cool. nothing more.
pool is monday nights. every week. not everybody shows up every week. but enough of us are there to feel at home, usually.
Oh no..., posted 11 Feb 2003 at 16:51 UTC by Cinnamongirl »
(Fixture)
Baggins, how the heck can you say something like that and NOT expect me to get all curious???
Curiosity killed the cat. It almost did kill my cat, Oscar, who took a nose-first dive off our porch a few months ago, trying to escape, and broke his sternum. We have x-rays to prove it. We had to take him to the emergency vet. Frickin' Oscar.
You'll laugh when you see what I mean about my pool skills, but I'll give it a shot some Monday. Usually, whoever I'm playing against will win the game before I sink even one ball. Pathetic.
I think Raskol told me he was playing a show with RV in April--if that's true, then ROCK!
shows, posted 11 Feb 2003 at 23:37 UTC by dogmanphil »
(Fixture)
yes, that is true!
thursday, april 10th at the lyon's den
blue stone
redvinegar
double bill
also in april we will be doing a very special show!
sunday the 27th of april at berry memorial church
redvinegar
sheepdog society (tim lowly's band)
this will be differant show for us. a don't miss!
tonight..., posted 11 Feb 2003 at 23:48 UTC by pedro »
(Tourist)
...it's a very special redvinegar...
Phil discovers his love for digital effects. Erik discovers his true love for haggis. Tim is diagnosed with irreversible halitosis... while Peter is trapped in the Himalayas -- with a broken heart!
Seriously though, the show with Tim Lowly will be very low key, with probably a bunch of new "this-show-only" music. It will be in a church, and will be a benefit for Berry Memorial and some other cause. Plus, Tim's band is really incredible. He's a great musician and a great guy if you don't know him.
Plus, Blue Stone and redvinegar -- double bill at the Lyon's den. You know your faces are going to be completely rocked off at that show!
so much rock, posted 12 Feb 2003 at 00:00 UTC by baggins »
(Fixture)
so little time.
Baggins, posted 12 Feb 2003 at 00:13 UTC by dogmanphil »
(Fixture)
will you be the door man at the lyon's den?
bah. , posted 12 Feb 2003 at 02:16 UTC by baggins »
(Fixture)
and do what?
There will be a cover at the Lyon's Den show, and we need to have someone to collect it.
AM I IN REDVINEGAR OR NOT?
thats fun, posted 12 Feb 2003 at 10:17 UTC by dogmanphil »
(Fixture)
way cool.
Thanks, Grady!
blocked, posted 12 Feb 2003 at 10:39 UTC by blvdgirl »
(Fixture)
grady- that time my computer (at work/school) blocked it for "sex"
well...., posted 12 Feb 2003 at 10:54 UTC by ulyssess00 »
(Fixture)
the dudes in redvinegar are pretty damn sexy, so that makes sense.
our internet has been down at work and we just got it back a bit ago. what the hell is that all about? what shall i do at work without internet access?
"am i in redvinegar" or not is too funny.
there's a cover at LD to get in the show, but they won't provide somebody to collect it? what happens if i scam half the cash? or all of the cash? and say nobody came? (who's gonna fuck with me for one thing?) or is it a cover they impose, and then you collect it and distribute it among the bands? or something like that?
cover, posted 12 Feb 2003 at 16:40 UTC by pedro »
(Tourist)
It's actually pretty cool how it works -- we take the cover -- and we split it. They don't take a cut, but they also don't provide anyone to take the money.
so..., posted 12 Feb 2003 at 16:52 UTC by ulyssess00 »
(Fixture)
they dont pay you any money, they just let you charge the cover?
and they make their money at the bar?
that's not bad. , posted 12 Feb 2003 at 16:59 UTC by baggins »
(Fixture)
so. no guest list. you can be on the 'guest list' if you buy me a drink when you come in.
door money, posted 12 Feb 2003 at 18:03 UTC by lukas »
(Fixture)
just be sure to put someone at the door. One of the time the project played at the lion's den we just had someone from the bar do it and we are positive he took a nice cut for himself.
Joe was explicit -- you charge whatever you want, but you provide the guy to do it. Man, that's going to be such a great show.
shows..., posted 13 Feb 2003 at 00:06 UTC by pedro »
(Tourist)
I updated our shows page to reflect the latest bookings... emails will go out as soon as I get official-official confirmation about next Thursday.
also, posted 13 Feb 2003 at 13:48 UTC by lukas »
(Fixture)
Brink some blank CDR's. Joe has a realtime CD burner hooked up to the soundboard. Makes for fun live recordings that actually sound pretty good.
We're playing at Goose Island Lincoln Park -- 1800 N. Clybourn. A bunch of other bands will be playing, including Halfway Jane and Smittyvision. We're going on at 9:00 sharp -- so be there early! It's free, and is all ages! Spread the word and the love.
RAWK!, posted 19 Feb 2003 at 14:43 UTC by lieutenant »
(Fixture)
Yea!
A show I can make!
but i will try. yikes.
so, last weekend pedro and i went to check out the studio at
sacred heart in duluth, mn. its a old church that was going to be torn down back in the late eighties that a few people bought and turned into a music center.
so, shredzilla, pedro, and i went to meet with eric swanson who runs the studio. he gave us a tour of the place and played some music that was recorded there. its amazing! we really are excited to work up there.
i took a bunch of picture of the place for you all to look at!
some of the stained glass:
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some shots around the church:
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well, goose island clybourn was fun thursday night. it was weird, we haven't played there in a long time. i forgot how fast six songs go. we played well other than one train wreck that i caused. SUCK! any ways thanks to everone that came. we are probably playing there again the 20th on march with aaron moon! so, pedro and i 'll keep you posted about that show.
skehdooley, posted 25 Feb 2003 at 23:45 UTC by pedro »
(Tourist)
Ok dudes, as posted at our shows page, we have a bunch of dates lined up this spring:
March 20th -- north and clybourn (with moon)
April 10th -- lyon's den -- with blue stone
April 27th -- berry UMC -- with sheepdog society (tim lowly)
...and now
May 3rd -- Goose Island Wrigleyville IV
... just got confirmed. Woot!
Perhaps I am extremely slow on the uptake, but I just today understood the Biblical reference of the band name Red Vinegar. I was raised very Christian and am more versed with the Bible than most, but I never made the connection until now.
Now that I know this. I am more prepared to create apropriate artwork for Red Vinegar CD inserts, t-shirts, posters, and other band merchandise. I work on donations Pedro, so if you've got no cash throw me a nickel and let's get to work. I work at kinko's so all the printing is 25% off! Woohoo, Red Vinegar rocks!!
PS. I think that there is an element of blues to Red Vinegar as well, and that was not mentioned in the entree intro. There's just that soulful vibe, you know? Entree intro -- try sayin' that five times fast.
There is no intentional Biblical reference in the band name... which is not to say that there can't be one, or that different people can't see different things... what were you thinking, out of curiosity?
We may very well take you up on that at some point...
yeah dudes, posted 8 Mar 2003 at 06:12 UTC by neoacerbitas »
(Fixture)
i was going to post somthing here but then realised that most people already think i'm an assshoole so i decided not too...yeah dudes
seriously. you're not an asshole by any means.
what were you thinking of?
He was probably thinking of the vinegar on the sponge at the crucifixion.
Vinegar--, posted 10 Mar 2003 at 10:48 UTC by Cinnamongirl »
(Fixture)
Amy, you're right. We had a lengthy discussion about it this weekend. OutsideInfluence wrote that he's more familiar with the Bible than most...he certainly is more so than me, which is my own fault. But I explained that as far as the Diner is concerned, I think many of you are experts as far as myself is concerned.
In any case, Redvinegar is like aforementioned vinegar as far as assuaging one's spirit with good, solid tunes. Since a lot of people here are English majors, it's nice to know that one can free-associate without incrimination or just plain confused looks.
This should go to Thelogy Fried Rice--but was that vinegar supposed to help Him? I know it was supposed to be mixed with wine, but what prompted the man to do that?
vinegar, posted 10 Mar 2003 at 11:05 UTC by pedro »
(Tourist)
I think the word "vinegar" was a king jamesism that stuck for "sour wine" or "cheap wine." It probably wasn't like what we think of cooking vinegar, which would be pretty brutal to drink.
BUSTED!, posted 11 Mar 2003 at 23:32 UTC by pedro »
(Tourist)
We got busted by the NPU security tonight during practice. Things were just starting to roll.
oh, posted 11 Mar 2003 at 23:33 UTC by pedro »
(Tourist)
Although Tim L. took a bunch of really cool photos that we'll probably end up posting on the website.
busted?, posted 12 Mar 2003 at 00:00 UTC by baggins »
(Fixture)
as in, you're not allowed to practice there? you guys are more punk than i thought.
well,, posted 12 Mar 2003 at 00:03 UTC by pedro »
(Tourist)
I thought we were... (punk levels... draining...)
And we will make sure that it's ok in the future (punk levels totally depleted)
lol, posted 12 Mar 2003 at 00:46 UTC by baggins »
(Fixture)
nah. you guys are still punk. except erik. he's mathrock.
Hey, Neo. I certainly don't think you're an @$$hole. You've been nothing but cool in every entree I've posted with you.
Also, I'd like to say that I became a Red Vinnegar fan while Cinnamongirl was playing a CD, and I asked "Who is this? They're really good." I turned out to be a song sung by Pedro and Mercurymouth for someone's wedding I believe, but it was so enchanting and haunting. It captured me and never let go. I guess that makes me a Pedro fan more than a RV fan (no offense to the rest of the band).
actually, posted 12 Mar 2003 at 15:33 UTC by baggins »
(Fixture)
that makes you a jeremy enigk fan, more than anything else. it's a song that they covered, written by Jeremy Enigk (who was in Sunny Day Real Estate, and now in The Fire Theft, playing the Metro on the 24th of march). anyway, thought you might enjoy knowing that. although, i don't want to detract from the magic of redvinegar. because those guys rule.
MOON-Y, posted 19 Mar 2003 at 09:50 UTC by dogmanphil »
(Fixture)
practice with moon was great last night. it's good to make music with him. it's also rad with redvinegar being a 5 piece. all of you that can make it tonight your in for a treat.
NEW, super-exciting news! and some other minor updates.
All right..., posted 28 Mar 2003 at 07:39 UTC by dex »
(Fixture)
... I think I'll plan my two week summer sojurn home for July so I can finally see a RV show.
Of course I'll have Anna in tow. And probably my siblings. How far is it from home to Chicago, Peter?
8 hours, posted 28 Mar 2003 at 08:53 UTC by pedro »
(Tourist)
Optimal, basically following the speed limit.
I'd say 10 hours with real stops.
THat would be AWESOME!
...did you guys get this gig based on your musical talents, or the fact that your band is named after an edible...? ;-)
the festival's organizer's would probably get a kick out of the diner....
anyway, i'm hoping i'm in town for this gig...
and that i'll be able to make the abbey show despite graduation-madness....
hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha graduation! hahahahahahahahahahaha
the bad news, posted 1 Apr 2003 at 10:05 UTC by dogmanphil »
(Fixture)
i am sorry to inform you but, i have to quit the band. i hate to do it like this but, it's just been on my mind lately. it's hard being in a band at any level. redvinegar will go on. please understand i still love the music and pete, tim, and erik. i have to get back to into school and finish. i'm sorry. i will be finishing up these next few shows with redvinegar but, when erik leaves for up north i will bow out.
thanks for the good times.
phil
nice one phil, posted 1 Apr 2003 at 10:09 UTC by pedro »
(Tourist)
I'm also shutting down the diner, I'm going to quit working with computers, and I think I'm going to take a job as a grocery store manager. Maybe beat out that Russ guy at the Pulaski Jewel. I think I could take him.
Oh,, posted 1 Apr 2003 at 10:29 UTC by Cinnamongirl »
(Fixture)
I thought that was a joke.
Which is it?
Anywho, on an unrelated note, I'm going to quit doing whatever I do and eat my own hair.
your own hair, posted 1 Apr 2003 at 13:48 UTC by nunnybun »
(Fixture)
doused in red vinegar?
oh also,, posted 1 Apr 2003 at 13:50 UTC by pedro »
(Tourist)
I think i'm going to start running X-10 popup ads on the diner. Just to recoup some of the investment, you know.
Careful now, posted 1 Apr 2003 at 15:58 UTC by nutella »
(Fixture)
International Rules state that if you say such things after noon has passed you become the victim.
Oh, by the way, your shoelaces are undone.
jeezus, posted 2 Apr 2003 at 03:03 UTC by neoacerbitas »
(Fixture)
I think that it was less of a sponge than a loofa.
when the campus pork stops you for practicing, make sure to ask them if you woke them up, they always seem to sleep through the late night shifts, especially on the weekend when i'm selling crack out the front door. Of course when i call them on it and write "wake up and do your F*cking job once in awhile" it gets immediately painted over (as in, withing a few hours) so that nobody ever actually finds out that security doesn't do their job. whatever, i'm bitching now so i'll go to bed.
Tom . . . or rather . . . "neo"
so, redvinegar and blue stone will be playing at the lyon's den next thursday the 10th. the show is at 9pm so get there early as to get a spot and not to miss any rock! also we will be hopefully recording the show so we need you cats to be nice and loud and pretend that we are a normal rock band.
so, the show is five bucks that goes right to us and blustone. show is at 9:00. and be loud!
lyon's den flyer
red vinegar has a new page at The Art Conspiracy , check it out!
anybody?, posted 7 Apr 2003 at 01:42 UTC by dogmanphil »
(Fixture)
notice that i used the popular way of spelling redvinegar. whoops.
also, posted 7 Apr 2003 at 01:44 UTC by dogmanphil »
(Fixture)
people pick up copies of the reader. under the abbey's listing is our may 8th show with us as "red vinegar", blue stone as "bluestone", and the slow learners. but the coolest thing is that two lines down is the listing for the 17th KING'S X!!!!! that made my day.
...when phil's day was made.
haha, posted 7 Apr 2003 at 09:24 UTC by pedro »
(Tourist)
That will need to be scanned.
Yo,, posted 7 Apr 2003 at 12:37 UTC by Cinnamongirl »
(Fixture)
If anyone is willing to give me (and possibly Hernando) a ride to the RV show on Thursday, I will spring for gas money. My sister may be coming, in which case I have a ride home, but she has a night class and won't be able to be there until after the show starts.
I live off of Washtenaw & Balmoral (more broadly, Foster & Lincoln area). Close to North Park. If you are down to help a sister out, please let me know. I really want to be there.
I meant,, posted 7 Apr 2003 at 12:38 UTC by Cinnamongirl »
(Fixture)
the redvinegar AND bluestone show. How could I miss witnessing two such powerful forces collide?
busbus, posted 7 Apr 2003 at 13:27 UTC by inkblot »
(Fixture)
Cinnamongirl, CTA goes direct between those locations. Take the #11 Lincoln bus. Lyon's Den is at Irving Park, something, and Lincoln.
the den, posted 7 Apr 2003 at 14:07 UTC by lukas »
(Fixture)
irving, damen, and lincoln. Just up lincoln from martyr's and down irving from cafe 28. If you need food before the show, martyr's has excellent chicken quesadilla (it's great pre-show food). The Lyon's Den has some greasy food too. Or the Wild Goose is just up lincoln and they've got tasty food too. We used to walk there for beers and bar food and hockey playoff games when we lived over on Berteau. Have fun at the show, I wish I could be there. I love the Lyon's Den. Pedro, does Joe stil have a B3 and Leslie? If so, you should totally use it.
only 19 hour till we rock some faces off. all of you that are comeing to THE ROCK SHOW, i think you really are in for a treat. one, because i think we are playing really well, or so it sounds to me. two, because blue stone is gunna rock your world. and three erik is fun to watch.
hope to see you all there.
Tonight, posted 10 Apr 2003 at 11:55 UTC by Cinnamongirl »
(Fixture)
I saw the show in the Reader, in the section where the bars are listed and the shows going on at each one. BUT, they messed up and both CAPITALIZED redvinegar, and made it two words. Your publicist is gonna have to get on this one.
ya,, posted 10 Apr 2003 at 17:12 UTC by dogmanphil »
(Fixture)
and i guess the curse is now spred to Blue Stone because they are now getting printed as bluestone and we are Red Vinegar. come on!
OGG VORBIS!, posted 11 Apr 2003 at 16:11 UTC by pedro »
(Tourist)
Here are the first batch. Please report any "tag" problems (misspellings in the comments and stuff) to my email address.
You can get an ogg-enabled Winamp here.
patent-enslaved mp3s coming right up!
Here are the MP3 files for those of you who don't want to use oggs. (I realize there are some real reasons for wanting to do so.)
Notice however that the mp3s are roughly 50 megs for the whole thing, whereas the oggs are only about 25 megs. So you could go download the ogg playing software here and still save around 18 megabytes.
da files
the only problem with soundboard recordings like these are that drums, guitar amps, and bass amps all put out a bunch of sound already so you don't have to push them in the levels. but, vocals need to be pushed alot. so, most of the recordings are really heavy on vocals. but, you guys get the idea at least.
i think grace, b-side, and mathew are the best ones from the soundboard. games is fun too.
peace of mind..., posted 12 Apr 2003 at 02:53 UTC by pedro »
(Tourist)
Is not flawless, but I thought came off pretty well.
berry umc, posted 24 Apr 2003 at 19:06 UTC by dogmanphil »
(Fixture)
hope to see you all at the show on sunday! laura and peter will be playing with us. should be amazing night. the show is free but, please bring money to donate, thanks.
i feel betrayed, posted 25 Apr 2003 at 15:35 UTC by lukas »
(Fixture)
where are the new photos and flyers!?!?!?
just kidding, posted 25 Apr 2003 at 15:35 UTC by lukas »
(Fixture)
:D
Hey Pedro, I was just looking at the redvinegar website and saw the little segment about the 19th c. incarnation of Pedro. That's a cool story. How did you find out about this guy?
pap, posted 25 Apr 2003 at 20:31 UTC by pedro »
(Tourist)
I was googling for my name, and I found the picture of the skate shop, etc...
Cool., posted 26 Apr 2003 at 11:01 UTC by Cinnamongirl »
(Fixture)
When I google my name, all I come up with is work stuff. Which is depressing.
Apparently there's an ad in the RedEye for Goose Island etc. today... and there should be our name and maybe a logo or picture in there somewhere.... I haven't seen it yet.
that bastion of excellence in journalism.
(but in all sincerity, congrats. i remember how stoked i was the first time i saw my band's name in teeny-tiny print in the local paper's concert listings. a full ad is the bomb.)
...so it's not exactly a "full ad"
peep this!, posted 2 May 2003 at 15:45 UTC by pedro »
(Tourist)
Check it!
That's about 11 inches long in real life, across the bottom of the first page of the music section in the... ahem... RedEye.
Still! It's neato!
haha!, posted 2 May 2003 at 16:14 UTC by baggins »
(Fixture)
you guys are 'original pop'!! haha
haha, i know!, posted 2 May 2003 at 16:23 UTC by pedro »
(Tourist)
lukas thinks they got the band labels flipped around. Notice that in the pictures of their band there is not a single visible acoustic instrument.
Cool, posted 2 May 2003 at 16:41 UTC by Cinnamongirl »
(Fixture)
I have today's Red Eye and saw the redvinegar blurb. Yeah, Original Pop--suckazzz!
Actually, I like the RedEye better than actual papers. But that may be cos I'm from the MTV generation and have no attention span.
RedEye? redvinegar? conspiracy??? OO-ee-OO....
lol, posted 2 May 2003 at 17:04 UTC by baggins »
(Fixture)
lukas might be right. i saw that. they have no acoustic instruments. i thought that was weird as well.
i think jelani used to have a theroy about us being red or was that dave? pedro you still have the old e-mails from the old list?
we will be doing aditions for fly-girls for our original pop act.
..., posted 2 May 2003 at 17:07 UTC by baggins »
(Fixture)
Baggins = original fly girl
yes he is, posted 2 May 2003 at 17:22 UTC by pedro »
(Tourist)
and we have pictures to prove it.
dogman... , posted 2 May 2003 at 17:22 UTC by pedro »
(Tourist)
original emails... somewhere... maybe...
?, posted 2 May 2003 at 18:08 UTC by baggins »
(Fixture)
you have pictures?
Abbey Pub, posted 2 May 2003 at 18:29 UTC by instantcofi »
(Fixture)
How much is the show at the Abbey? I can't make it to the show tomorrow cause I'm filming but I really wanna check out the show o the 8th!
cinco smackers, posted 2 May 2003 at 18:32 UTC by pedro »
(Tourist)
five bucks
should be a great show. we love playing at goose. we are the only ones playing tonight so there will be a whole lotta redvinegar goin' on!
webcast?, posted 3 May 2003 at 16:57 UTC by lukas »
(Fixture)
is there a webcast of tonight's show?
how much would that rock!?!
good show, posted 4 May 2003 at 02:14 UTC by baggins »
(Fixture)
'Stonewalls and Steel Bars' is such a kick-ass song!
re: other comments
The vocals were not loud enough in the front of the room. my guess is that the mix in back has them loud enough, but the mix in front is more saturated in the overall stage sound. which has everything amplified except the vocals. anyway, pedro's vocals are really dang good, and quite a significant part of the songs, and i wish i could have heard them better. you guys rule...
when and where is the next Redvinegar show? phil mentioned smething about Delisi's, which is very near my casa. or did that have nothing to do with rv? what about the abbey? sorry, i have gone to the rv link; i'm just confused. thanks for any clarification you can offer.
both, posted 6 May 2003 at 15:56 UTC by pedro »
(Tourist)
the abbey on thursday night at 7:00 $5
delisi's on Sat. night 10:00 PM? Free!
sweet!, posted 6 May 2003 at 19:20 UTC by Cinnamongirl »
(Fixture)
thursday night might be difficult for me, and saturday is my sis' graduation party (she's gettin' her master's from north park--go, sarah!), but that's more of a daytime thing. maybe my dad will even come along for sat., he's in town from denver, and as i said delisi's is near my house, and he loves live music.
i've missed the last few rv shows due to several things, and i really miss seeing you guys. i hope to be there saturday!
It was a great show, and awesome to see some old friends. I feel like we played well, and I think it went over pretty well. It's kind of weird to think that last night, we played a gig at the abbey! How 'bout it?!
delisi's should be really fun. low key no pressure. i can't wait.
serious..., posted 10 May 2003 at 19:06 UTC by pedro »
(Tourist)
I hope to see you there!
Which member of redvinegar are you?
ha ha, posted 11 May 2003 at 16:53 UTC by inkblot »
(Fixture)
i'm so not phil.
Well well, posted 11 May 2003 at 16:57 UTC by dex »
(Fixture)
I am Peter Peterson. ??? Sure.
Funny, posted 12 May 2003 at 09:19 UTC by BigJ »
(Fixture)
Turns out I'm some guy named George. is there a George in the band? I did hit the button marked "crazy old greek guy who used to own a retaurant" maybe that had something to do with it...
hmmm, posted 12 May 2003 at 12:29 UTC by baggins »
(Fixture)
i was pedro. i guess. i didn't know he liked death metal...
what tha?, posted 12 May 2003 at 15:09 UTC by instantcofi »
(Fixture)
I was tim, who is the only member I don't know...weird?
the whole quiz was defunt, cause I'm not male and i play no instruments...and yeah...
seriously needs a chick in the band.
There is a new special!
webpage updates, posted 2 Jun 2003 at 13:17 UTC by pedro »
(Tourist)
...coming soon, including updated music!
new music, posted 2 Jun 2003 at 23:09 UTC by pedro »
(Tourist)
including astronaut's blues
there is a ton of new photos that pedro and i posted today. enjoy!
linkage, posted 8 Jun 2003 at 01:50 UTC by pedro »
(Tourist)
our photo page
metromix
There's also this schedule.
You can decide which page is cooler to be on -- Metromix.com or CityOfChicago.org!
Make your voice known and help us pick a redvinegar t-shirt design! Log in and vote!
Please log in and make sure your votes are still there, or re-vote.
ok, posted 13 Jun 2003 at 08:44 UTC by BigJ »
(Fixture)
I must say I love the "I went to a redvinegar show and all I got was my face rocked off" shirt, that's fricken funny. But a good selection to be had.
so, are you saying that you would buy that shirt if it was made? or are you just saying that it is funny? cause, thats the only problem i have with that shirt. i think it's funny and think that alot of people do too but, would people buy it if that was the one made?
actually, posted 13 Jun 2003 at 12:04 UTC by baggins »
(Fixture)
no, i don't know if i would. i think i put it dead last on my list. and i almost checked the 'i wouldn't buy it' box. i'm not sure. if it ends up being the one you guys make, i'd probably buy it to support you guys. but i'd rather wear any of the other ones.
it *is* funny, and the way some people were talking, it was like they thought it was the most hilarious thing in the world. And so on one hand we felt like, it's not really what we thought of when we thought of making an rv shirt, but on the other hand, it's funny and memorable, and maybe people would like that... etc. It will be interesting to see how that turns out.
cliche, posted 13 Jun 2003 at 12:57 UTC by inkblot »
(Fixture)
it's too cliche to wear. i can understand why some people think it's funny. personally, i don't.
Agreed, posted 13 Jun 2003 at 13:49 UTC by dex »
(Fixture)
I agree with inkblot.
but, it's not one of my favorites. plus i don't think any of us in the band could wear it. i want a rv shirt i could wear too.
actually,, posted 13 Jun 2003 at 16:28 UTC by pedro »
(Tourist)
I would probably wear it. But not for the same reason that I'd wear one of the other designs that I think is actually "a cool design".
Oh, I see what you mean phil about "not wearing it," like, it would be kind of lame for the bandmembers to wear it because of what it says. TOtally. But if I weren't in the band, I'd wear the shirt. But I can understand how some people wouldn't want to.
shred, posted 13 Jun 2003 at 16:29 UTC by dogmanphil »
(Fixture)
wonder were daves been at? wonder what shirt he would want?
WWSV, posted 13 Jun 2003 at 18:03 UTC by pedro »
(Tourist)
What Would Shred Vote??
I emailed him, so he knows.
if you haven't voted on shirts, and you care, please do so now, as we'll close voting probably some time tomorrow. After some discussion, we may have a second round from the top four or something like that... we'll have to see.
We culled out the obvious top five from the previous election, and now we're onto the second and final round. Please go and vote now for your favorite choice.
Thanks!
i was wondering who will be able to come?
i'm gonna be away from July 3-6--but i would hate to miss it!
July 2nd, posted 18 Jun 2003 at 12:03 UTC by andronicus »
(Fixture)
12:30 in the afternoon. Come one, come all. Anyone who works downtown should just make a lunch out of it. Call it a Rock-n-Roll Lunch Punch, because it's going to punch you in the face...with rock.
ouch, posted 18 Jun 2003 at 13:10 UTC by baggins »
(Fixture)
sounds danger-- awesome. i'm planning on trying to make it down there.
Damn guys, posted 19 Jun 2003 at 09:42 UTC by Cinnamongirl »
(Fixture)
I have to miss it. I am taking the 3rd off work to leave for an out of town 4th of July family thing. It will be impossible for me to leave work at any time during the 2nd as I will be scrambling around to prepare for a four-day weekend away. I'm SOO sorry and bummed, guys. I love the Taste of Chicago and would have loved to see you guys rock half the city of Chicago.
hey pedro do we have a winner? when should we end the contest?
If you want to vote, today's probably the last day.
Here's the deal. This is going to sound technical, but it really isn't -- so read on and let me know what you think.
Originally when I wrote the voting program, I wanted people to be able to vote from 1 (highest) to 12 (lowest). This presents a logical problem, because if 1 is higher than 12, you have to do some kind of mathematical translation to the number in order to make actually be more than 12 after the same transformation.
For example, I could have made a list like this: 12, 11, 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1, and then when someone voted 1, I would take the first item from the list, in this case, 12. Or when someone would vote 12, I'd take the last item from the list, in this case 1. Or when someone voted 3, they'd get 10 points. But I didn't like that solution, because programmatically, it's not as elegant.
So, what I did was have the vote weights actually represent the denominator of a fraction (the bottom number) -- so a 1 was worth 1 (one), a 2 was worth 1/2, a 3 1/3, etc., until a 12 (last place) was worth 1/12. This was a simple mathematical solution to "inverting" the value of my 12 numbers, but it created a logical problem I didn't really think about until yesterday, and that is:
My system essentially said that you like your 2nd place choice half as well as you like your first place choice. And that you like your 3rd place choice a third as much as you like first place. Conversely, it takes 3 "3rd place votes" on a particular shirt to equal 1 first place vote. This makes your first place vote extremely powerful, and your other votes much "weaker". If you graph this, it becomes a curve.
Contrast that to the first method I showed above with the list (12, 11, 10, 9, ... 1) -- that creates a system where your second place vote (11) is only a little worse off than your first place vote (12), and your third place vote (10) is just a little worse off than that. This graphs in a straight line.
This makes your first and last place votes the same as in the curve -- 1 is to 1/12 as 12 is to 1 -- but it drastically changes how your "in between" votes turn out. This is the dilemma. In the curved result, it takes 2 second place (1/2) votes to equal one first place (1) vote -- but in the linear result, two second place votes equal 22 where one first place vote is a mere 12!
This means that if I calculate the votes in a curved fashion, your first place choice is incredibly important, where your other choices are not nearly as important. As I said before, it literally means that you like your second place choice half as much as your first place choice. However, in the linear rendering, many second place choices will count more than some first place choices, and this changes especially how opinion is registered overall.
Another good way of looking at it is to say that a curved rendering illustrates which shirt is "most often picked as favorite" by downplaying the importance of other ranks, wheras the linear rendering takes overall preference into account across the board and the winner may very well be the one that everyone picked as second place, rather than the one that most people picked as first place.
To continue with that thought, in the curved representation, if 20 out of 30 people said that the Versaci was their favorite, that'd be 20 points for the Versaci design. If everyone said that the Gucci was their second favorite, that would only be 15 points for the Gucci design (30 * 1/2). In the linear representation of the same scenario, if 20 people voted Versaci as #1, that would be "240" points. And if everyone (30) voted Gucci as second place, that would be "330" points for that design, and Gucci would beat Versaci.
So my question is, without telling you how that affects any of the shirts, which do you think is the best way to calculate the votes? How did you expect the ranking to work? Do you like your second place choice half as well as your first place? Or are the ranks closer than that in your mind?
Maybe I'll hold an election to determine the answer.
This my friends, is why statistics are so easily manipulated. Seriously though, what do you guys think? How should the votes be calculated?
re: stats, posted 20 Jun 2003 at 11:06 UTC by lukas »
(Fixture)
Scoring of voting like this is an interesting problem. The linear method is the least effective since it would be easy for a so-so shirt that everyone put at fifth to overtake a different shirt that had lots of first place votes. 30 fifth place votes is equal to 20 first place votes in the linear method. I think that at least some weight is needed so that value is added to the first place votes. In the second method, where a score is given as 1/x where x is the rank you get, as pedro pointed out, a large bias toward the highly ranked shirts. I'm not sure if this wieghting is too much.
So it comes down to basically how much should 2nd place be worth. I think that 1/x is a pretty good system even if it does skew pretty heavily on the upper end. One thing you could do is jut shift the curve up a little bit by using a multiplier. Like val = (1/x)*1.5 for values of x>1 or something similar. You could always arbitralily just start picking numbers too but with a formula like that you have constitency between the scores.
i don't know the solution.
but not for this problem.
it's Versace, with and "e", okay? glad we could get that straight.
I personally like the F1 point system, first place gets ten. second place gets like, six. third place gets four and fourth place through sixth or seventh get three, two, one points, respectively. something to that extent. I think that this method is a little better, but this isn't a race, so forget about that. shouldn't the tshirt with the most amount of first place votes get it? I mean, you're only going to make one shirt right? I don't know, like, if half the people vote for one shirt to be first place, the other half on another shirt to be first place and everybody voted for a third shirt to be second place, shouldn't that shirt win second place?
what, posted 20 Jun 2003 at 16:48 UTC by barefootjumper »
(Fixture)
is going on?
so, if i, being simpleminded and ignorant as i am, were running the voting i think i would have had people vote singularly for only three shirts each. then taken the top voting three shirts and had everyone vote for just one shirt, making each vote worth it's weight.
i want the Gucci shirt!
On first glance..., posted 20 Jun 2003 at 18:11 UTC by JT »
(Fixture)
...it seems to me that you'd get a more worthwhile result if you assigned points based on the number of 1st place votes, second place votes, etc., that each design gets. For example, if 30 people vote, and 20 of them give the same design first place, then that design will get 20 times whatever the value of first place is. This would help eliminate the problem of, say, two fifth place votes being worth more than one first place vote. For example, if a design gets 20 first place votes and 20 second place votes, it would receive 60 points: 20 for the first place votes, and 40 for the second place votes (20x2). Lowest point total of all the designs would then be declared the winner. I haven't crunched any numbers, but this system seems like it would take care of the problem of two fifth place votes being worth the same as one first place vote.
...for not previewing before posting. Please forgive the redundancy.
I think the results are pretty clear. Philm at eleven.
So, the metro doors shirt clearly won in both elections with the highest percentage of votes and the lowest disapproval rating, with the tree shirt being a close second. The problem with the metro doors shirt is that the range of color and the photographic quality of the design means that it will be harder and more expensive to print. We really want to have shirts available at the Taste, and so all things considered, we felt like it made more sense to print the tree shirts now, with the intention of making the metro doors shirts later on. It looks like the shirts are going to be $10. We're planning on printing a few colors of them, since it doesn't cost more to do so.
Thanks to everyone for voting, and warm up your cash, because we hope you'll buy one! Or two! Or clothe your whole family in redvinegar gear!
Pedro, posted 24 Jun 2003 at 11:39 UTC by BigJ »
(Fixture)
Sorry I was out of town last week and missed all the voting talk, personally I would have taken the log function of each curve and then added a modifier to it to adjust for volume, not that that owuld have helped, but at least then you don't have curves, :)
In chestnut and woodrose. Sounds like the right colors for a tree shirt.
email me now, posted 24 Jun 2003 at 22:46 UTC by pedro »
(Tourist)
at pedro@tastytronic.net with your size and color preferences so we can make sure that you get the shirt you want. Also, you can pay me at any time. I'll set up a paypal thing if people want to do that.
so we got a bunch of shirts so, if you guys to make it to the taste no worries we won't sell out of them just let pedro know and we'll save them for you and figure out what shipping would cost. the sizes are:
woodrose:xl, l, m, youth large(which is better than small)
chestnut:xl, l, m, youth large, and (2)xxl
the youth large isn't as tiny as a small and is alot shorter than the normal larges. so, for all the ladies out there you don't have to cut off the bottom of the shirt.
i am hold one of the xxl for baggins. so, i guess there is only 1 left. BigJ do you wear xl or xxl? it's yours if you want it.
colors, posted 25 Jun 2003 at 10:31 UTC by lukas »
(Fixture)
are there pictures of the shirt colors, and/or the final design?
I don't have examples of the colors, but here is a link to the shirt image.
but is there anything smaller than a youth large cause those still feel too bulky. i like the names of the colors, too...very woodsy.
sorry l..., posted 25 Jun 2003 at 12:38 UTC by pedro »
(Tourist)
That's what we ordered... although now that I think about it, if you have a request for a particular size, maybe we can sneak it into the order and adjust accordingly.
Anyway, if people want to speak up on this, as in, today, I can call propaganda and see what they can do.
We at redvinegar aim to please.
pedro, posted 25 Jun 2003 at 12:51 UTC by instantcofi »
(Fixture)
can I ask you about prices from propagnada.
I want to make some shirts with the albanian double headed eagel, for my sister and I and other peope. But like I don't just wan t-shirts I want liek cute tanks, anyhow...just wondering how much liek a dozen shirts would run ya?
And how small of an order you can make?
propaganda, posted 25 Jun 2003 at 12:56 UTC by pedro »
(Tourist)
Their smallest batch is 25 pieces I believe. I imagine they have tanks and whatnot available, but they may cost more than regular t-shirts.
THe treeshirt design is one screen, so that makes it cheaper, and 72 shirts would be $5.25 a shirt. I don't know how much 25 shirts would be -- probably more because it is a small batch, but possibly not, if their prices go in steps.
There is also a one-time charge of $25 per screen -- so if your shirt was ONE screen (one color), that would be 25 + (25 * 5.25) which is $156 at the absolute cheapest.
You know, posted 25 Jun 2003 at 14:33 UTC by BigJ »
(Fixture)
I'm not sure if I wear an XL or a XXl since it depends on the shirt. I usually wear an xl though since the xxl ends up being to baggy, but the length is nice, it's a toss up. Too bad I'll be in Ohio all next week, but I'll buy a shirt when I get back.
oldpossumus and i would like to know if the fabric of the shirts you've ordered is thin as in hanes under teeshirt thin?
probably not, posted 25 Jun 2003 at 20:41 UTC by pedro »
(Tourist)
It's probably like normal t-shirts that you get places. We just went with whatever their normal shirt is. We're sorry if it's not thin enough.
thin, posted 26 Jun 2003 at 00:07 UTC by dogmanphil »
(Fixture)
i believe that they are 50/50 so, they are the thinner t-shirts. or maybe tone color is 50/50 and the other is 100% i don't remember. pedro does it say on the invoice?
i didn't notice., posted 26 Jun 2003 at 00:32 UTC by pedro »
(Tourist)
I'll check tomorrow. I had nothign to do with the actual shirts ordered, so i'll defer to philbo on this one.
chestnut
and...
woodrose
The woodrose shirts are Fruit of the Loom (FTL), and the chestnut ones are "Gildan," but it doesn't say anything about fabric.
pedro+phil, posted 26 Jun 2003 at 12:23 UTC by mercurymouth »
(Fixture)
i'm sorry if i was sounding picky about a shirt size. i just have a lot of shirts that don't fit me. but that's okay. if there are any youth large's available, i will take one of those and make it work. i just think it's cool that you are doing this at all.
Woodrose, posted 26 Jun 2003 at 14:05 UTC by dex »
(Fixture)
Better make it XL - I can wear it while pregnant then. Otherwise I'd just need a L... so if you have more of one or the other, that's ok by me.
Wednesday Meetup, posted 1 Jul 2003 at 00:11 UTC by pedro »
(Tourist)
People are invited to meet at Victoria's to have breakfast with redvinegar and coordinate any caravaning that people want to do down to the Taste.
We will be signing autographs and hopefully will have t-shirts for sale... but that's not yet determined.
Please meet us and head down!
Sorry, , posted 1 Jul 2003 at 00:15 UTC by pedro »
(Tourist)
We're meeting at 9:00 AM on Wednesday at Victoria's.
CHARMIN MOBILE RESTROOMS TOUR
The charmin mobile restrooms are a luxurious addition to hundreds of portable bathroom facilities at the Taste. Complete with WALLPAPER, SKYLIGHTS, HARDWOOD FLOORS, SINKS and TVS, these 27 individual bathrooms are not your typical public restrooms. AND, for you lucky redvinegar fans, they are located near the GOOSE ISLAND SUMMERTIME TASTE STAGE!!!! yeah.
hey friends!, posted 1 Jul 2003 at 00:59 UTC by dogmanphil »
(Fixture)
if any of you that are planning on coming to the taste could bring your cameras that would be great! take lots of pictures. if you shoot the rolls i'll develope them. even if there is other pictures on you roll. otherwise i can give rolls to people if they want to take pictures. any help with this would be great.
we are rockin' here!
There will be high-divers near the Goose stage. High divers! After we play, I'm taking a dive.
sunscreen, posted 1 Jul 2003 at 15:02 UTC by inkblot »
(Fixture)
i'm a total nightcrawler. usually the end part of the night when the sun is about to rise. and i hate hot weather. as a result, i almost never go out during times when sunburningness is an issue, and have no sunscreen. can i use someone's sunscreen?
If others would do the same, we should have you covered. Get it!
:D, posted 1 Jul 2003 at 15:36 UTC by inkblot »
(Fixture)
the taste, posted 2 Jul 2003 at 13:06 UTC by instantcofi »
(Fixture)
I just left watching 3 songs of yours at the taste and now I am back at work. I thin it is awesome the stage was at Balbo cause I work on Blabo and Michigan almost, fancy isn't it. It was fun and nice, and I don't know what all you can see from up there on that big stage, but I was there with white pants on. Yee-frickin'-haw!
hey!, posted 2 Jul 2003 at 16:05 UTC by pedro »
(Tourist)
Thanks for coming em, I had no idea you were thinking of coming. And yeah, we were right there at Michigan and Balbo... that's super cool. Again, thanks to everyone who made an effort to come. And thanks to those who made an effort, but for whom it didn't work out. It was a real honor to be up there on a real stage playing for a bunch of people.
here is some of the video from the show.
ok and indiana 46 MG
so don't let that fool you because I'm never barefoot even at birth or in the shower. Glad to hear the show went well and the reason I'm writing is could you please post the set list here so I can at least listen to the show in my head?
okay
indiana
everyday
games
grace
b-side
gooddays
stonewalls
peace
astonauts
idkwhi
encore
--------
matthew
show, posted 15 Jul 2003 at 15:50 UTC by baggins »
(Fixture)
i talked to olpossumus and the word is that there is an RV show coming up? true?
word up., posted 15 Jul 2003 at 15:59 UTC by andronicus »
(Fixture)
July 25th at Goose Island Wrigleyville.
Bring your building permits cause we're bringing the hammer.
come one come all! to the best rock show in town!
thats right you favorite band of people you know is playing this friday at the island of goose. the show is at 10pm, it will be a three dollar cover which all goes to redvinegar and then to the record fund. we will have t-shirts for sale for 10 bucks, also to help the record fund. so, bring a friend or ten and come down to wriggleyville to have some great beer, hang out with good friends, and listen to a sub-par band, i mean awsome, rock your face off kind of band!
røk!, posted 22 Jul 2003 at 10:45 UTC by inkblot »
(Fixture)
... since they'd be two under par!
Ha!
<@pedro> rimshot!
<+Dumont> bada-boom -- *ka-ching!*
Hey!, posted 22 Jul 2003 at 11:02 UTC by Dumont »
(Fixture)
That's my line!
but but but, posted 23 Jul 2003 at 03:01 UTC by sneakums »
(Fixture)
What about Sally and the Albatrosses?
well , posted 23 Jul 2003 at 08:34 UTC by BigJ »
(Fixture)
that works in England, but in the states it's called a double eagle, I don't know why but it is. Some people in the US call is an albatros because it sounds cooler, but you'll only hear a golf announcer call it a double eagle.
double-eagle, posted 23 Jul 2003 at 11:06 UTC by pedro »
(Tourist)
...is, in my opinion, a stupid name for a shot that's 3 under par. If you have a birdie (1 under) and an eagle (2 under), a double eagle should be FOUR UNDER. DOUBLE. EAGLE. If you ask me, it should be an "eaglebirdie" or a "birdeagle". Or an albatross, which, frankly, is kind of an eaglebirdie. But double eagle makes no sense.
never the less, posted 23 Jul 2003 at 11:30 UTC by BigJ »
(Fixture)
that's what they call it. I like the albatross better, it has more style to it. Not to mention that it's the hardest shot in golf and to call it double-eagle sort of diminishes the joy of it.
Peter Alliss, posted 24 Jul 2003 at 04:16 UTC by sneakums »
(Fixture)
The greatest golf announcer in the world is Peter Alliss (with Alex Hay a close second), and of course he would say "albatross".
How many golf announcers have you ever heard note that a player has a wonderful walk, comment "I collect walks, you know" and then go to say "Look at that walk! Bobba-bobba bom bom-bom bobba-bobba bom bom-bom bom-bom" as the player proceeds up the fairway?
i, posted 24 Jul 2003 at 08:40 UTC by pedro »
(Tourist)
...would expect to hear some rat pack guy saying that about some "dame" as she walked down the street.
practice, posted 24 Jul 2003 at 23:45 UTC by dogmanphil »
(Fixture)
practicew went well tonight. we threw some fun gems into the set. should be alot of fun. remember 3$ and you i.d. to get in, 10 for a t-shirt, and 20 or so for food and beer.
but..., posted 24 Jul 2003 at 23:50 UTC by pedro »
(Tourist)
Come if you just have enough money for the cover and drinks!
or, posted 24 Jul 2003 at 23:52 UTC by dogmanphil »
(Fixture)
just the cover
I'll be leaving a crazy day at work behind me, and heading over to Ben's soon enough to pack up and head down to Goose... come see us play tonight, if you can!
dudes.
i will be spending some much needed time with the family so i won't be there, but i hope all goes well and much happiness is spread.
no kels?, posted 25 Jul 2003 at 18:07 UTC by baggins »
(Fixture)
this is a sad day indeed. will i see you before you head back up?
thanks, posted 26 Jul 2003 at 16:38 UTC by dogmanphil »
(Fixture)
hey, thanks to everyone that came out and made it such a great night. also thanks for putting up with me being stressed out. there was alot of bad situations going on before the show, but i (we) got over it and had a fun time.
redvinegar at goose island playing biologically impossible
a jeremy enigk tribute
Hi all, redvinegar will be playing at the Hollywood this Friday night after Germanfest... be there, or be Blair (from the Facts of Life)!
BTW, posted 2 Sep 2003 at 22:39 UTC by dogmanphil »
(Fixture)
it has been almost two years sence the last time rv has played the wood and that was the week of my wedding. before that it was may of 2000!
new music, posted 18 Sep 2003 at 10:42 UTC by dogmanphil »
(Fixture)
pedro and i updated the music page on redvinegar.net.
enjoy!
hey y'all, posted 25 Sep 2003 at 17:36 UTC by Cinnamongirl »
(Fixture)
i didn't even know about this until today, when i saw a sign over in carlson towers, but apparently rv is playing delisi's this sat.? that's a show i can probably make it to, being that i'll be in town this weekend and it's walking distance from my casa. the issue is usually finding a ride to the show, and it never works out. so, rock on!
oh right, posted 26 Sep 2003 at 02:25 UTC by pedro »
(Tourist)
Delisi's! This Saturday night at 9:30!
Delisi's is at Ardmore and Western on the West side of the street. It's a FREE show and is 18 and over! So you have no excuse!
WELL DUDES, posted 26 Sep 2003 at 12:53 UTC by pedro »
(Tourist)
...this is an historical moment.
redvinegar has booked the tracking dates for their first recording.
right on!, posted 26 Sep 2003 at 13:02 UTC by lukas »
(Fixture)
why "an" gets used before "historical" does anyone here pronounce it: iss-tor-i-kil?
not that this belongs at all in this entree, but did you also know that the us is the only country that pronounces the word "herb" ERB?
anyhow, if i were in chicago, i'd definitely go to the delisi's red vinegar show saturday night at nine thirty pm central standard time.
delisi's sat/today
goose island wrigleyville oct 4th/ a week from today
the beat kitchen oct 29th.
we are so excited for this fall. please try and make the show at goose next week as well as the beat kitchen the 29th. these will be really fun shows at cool venues.
Goose Island, posted 30 Sep 2003 at 10:06 UTC by dogmanphil »
(Fixture)
sat, the 4th we are playing in wrigleyville, you know where the cubs play. oh, and if you haven't heard they are in the playoffs. so, anyways we are playing saturday night. we don't know what time yet but, it's safe to say 10 if the cubs don't play or if they play a day game. and it's probably 5 bucks inless they play a night game and are getting out when we are supposed to start. if you aren't already following the cubs please do, cause if the cubs win one and the braves win one there will be a game on saturday, which means YOU WILL NEED TO COME EARLY TO GET A SPOT FOR THE SHOW!
GO CUBBIES!!
umm, posted 30 Sep 2003 at 11:33 UTC by baggins »
(Fixture)
so, exactly how much and what time? the above post is a bit confusing.
well, basically,, posted 30 Sep 2003 at 12:00 UTC by pedro »
(Tourist)
The playoffs have thrown everything into a little confusion.
We are shooting for $5 at 10:00.
The fact that there may be a night game means that Goose might push us back a little, but may also just pay us, rather than have us take over the back room, which would mean no cover!
But we don't know and won't know until the playoffs solidify. We hope this won't change your plans.
it won't., posted 30 Sep 2003 at 12:29 UTC by baggins »
(Fixture)
also - i have never worried about this before, so i have never bothered to know. but... is it 21+? because i have a friend i think would enjoy the show, but she's 20.
21+, posted 30 Sep 2003 at 12:59 UTC by dogmanphil »
(Fixture)
it will still be 21 and over. sorry.
tonight, posted 5 Oct 2003 at 01:55 UTC by pedro »
(Tourist)
We played (I think) our best show yet, at least from a technical standpoint (tough to beat all the cool things with the berry show). Goose said no cover, so that was good but I think a lot of people stayed home because of traffic or other considerations (plus, they had no way of knowing it would be free), so it was pretty sparse. Oh well. I don't think I've had as much sheer fun playing with the band as I did tonight.
i'm listening to redvinegar right now as a matter of fact, a show from a year ago, almost exactly
it is oldpossumus but I don't know how to log into this place. So please ignore the false nom-de-plumage. Just wanted to let you lads know that a check for (50+500-200-75+25andthendividedby2) dollars just appeared courtesy of an apologetic northern suburban church for one "Red Vinegar". Well, it's actually made out to one "Erik Anderson", which changes things, don't you think?
Oh yeah, does the Genius Lee ever frequent this establishment? Is this even the right booth for this kind of thing? Well tell him that I have a playstation two (thanks to Jose) and a copy of Fifa (thanks to Canada) here in northern minnesota, and a lot of time on my hands, and that he's just been served, so he has two weeks to get his together.
Go Cubs!
haha!, posted 8 Oct 2003 at 17:28 UTC by pedro »
(Tourist)
That's awesome! I assumed we would never see that money again. Thanks, God! And thanks, dude! Whose name I can't remember only because I just woke up from a nap.
Genius doesn't really keep tabs on the diner I don't think...
Yes, Go Cubs!
but I will pass the message on to him when I talk to him next.
genius says, posted 9 Oct 2003 at 20:23 UTC by pedro »
(Tourist)
"He's a dead man for talking such trash... he just guaranteed his defeat."
OCT 29th, posted 11 Oct 2003 at 12:37 UTC by dogmanphil »
(Fixture)
beat kitchen!
RENT VINEGAR!
Rent one of the burly men of redvinegar to do odd jobs around your home in exchange for a donation towards the completion of our album!
*rimshot*
Do you do laundry?, posted 21 Oct 2003 at 19:14 UTC by dex »
(Fixture)
I think the transport costs would be too expensive.
You can now buy redvinegar shirts with a credit card (or paypal)!
rv is playing this wed at the beat kitchen. this is possibly the last normal show of this year. we have a show at a youth group and possibly a north park fund raiser but, this is the last show booked that is at a venue. it also should be worth your while. the beat kitchen is a great place, good food, nice bar. we play right at 9pm so, you still be home before the news and still get a full nights sleep.
oh, and oldpossum and raskol are back in town. E will be playing with us on a song. so, for nothing else that will be worth your time and money.
man, posted 28 Oct 2003 at 01:55 UTC by baggins »
(Fixture)
i totally wish i could be there. but, alas, i have my photography class on wednesday nights. i am really enjoying the class and learning a lot. if i could legitimately skip it, i would. but i really need to be there. i am at the show in spirit guys. rock my face off in spirit.
Baggs..., posted 28 Oct 2003 at 08:49 UTC by smax »
(Fixture)
Take pictures there. Ask how to push and pull film and go out and get some 1600 fuji and push it to 3200. Forget your flash. You will get interesting shots and you'll learn a lot about light special processing.
Or just go to class, but that seems boring.
haha, posted 28 Oct 2003 at 10:19 UTC by pedro »
(Tourist)
I like either option, but I totally understand that you gotta do what you good do, baggs, although we will definitely miss you.
I considered buying a plane ticket. (It was a happy, adventurous minute...)
ah, posted 28 Oct 2003 at 13:46 UTC by baggins »
(Fixture)
if i could do that, i would smaxx. however, wednesday is a day we are critiquing and he will be lecturing and explaining our next shooting assignment. i've missed class before, and consequently missed his in-class explanation of the assignment. and from that experience i can say that i much prefer to be there when he explains it.
10-4, posted 29 Oct 2003 at 09:26 UTC by smax »
(Fixture)
It was worth a shot. I'm really just getting ichy to do some real photography again. Digital is fun, but I miss the smell of fixer, and being able to shoot and ISO 3200 or 6400. Maybe this should go in a whiny entree.
we would love to have you here max. or maybe when we record at sacred heart.
fixer, posted 29 Oct 2003 at 14:02 UTC by baggins »
(Fixture)
i always have a headache after being in the darkroom for 3.5 hours. i take breaks, and smoke cigarettes and stuff, but i always end up with a headache after breathing in those chemicals. it's in a highschool with a huge ventilator and i'm sure it's up to rigid standards. but fixer smell makes me want to vomit. my fingers were blue the other day after using the chemicals for so long.
haha, posted 29 Oct 2003 at 14:28 UTC by barefootjumper »
(Fixture)
"i take breaks, and smoke cigarettes...but i always end up with a headache after breathing in those chemicals"
haha, posted 29 Oct 2003 at 15:22 UTC by baggins »
(Fixture)
i have been smoking for 12 years. i don't get headaches when i take a smokebreak in my other classes...
death, posted 29 Oct 2003 at 15:54 UTC by smax »
(Fixture)
Speaking of death...
Last year one of my old photography professors at Elgin CC died from cancer. I would put money on it having something to do with his time in the darkroom. He had skin and eye problems that the doctor told him was because of his going back and forth rom complete darkness to well lit studio. It's not a problem everyone can get, but he had some sort of physical disposition towards the problem. Basically his cornia was scraping... not pleasant.
Lesson learned, always use tongs, he used his hands in the chemicals (hence the skin problem). And always ventelate well. Actually the past couple of years have been pretty bad for my ex-photo profs. 2 died (the other was in a car accident) and one other prof got hit by a bus... I think he's alive. Maybe I should check in.
And last (more death!), "come out and shoot us smax!" has to be one of the funniest things I've read in here lately. I can't wait for that to come up in Google. I'd love to fly out and shoot the show, but alas... these silly web pages need to be changed around a lot and fall is a scary busy time for the ski industry.
check out this mp3 station
hahahah, posted 30 Oct 2003 at 12:40 UTC by pedro »
(Tourist)
Hey, I liked this bit from the Beat Kitchen's band website page:
"For up-and-coming local bands, however, please understand that in addition to these promotional mainstays, the best way to support your show and guarantee a good crowd at any of your shows is to personally contact your friends and fans (and friends of family and fans). The fact is that until you have a really good buzz going, no one (literally) will happen to see your band's flyer or name in an ad or even see you on the morning news and just decide to show up. It may be sad, but we guarantee it is true."
...that we "brought" 32 people to the show on Wednesday, x $6 cover, minus a chunk for the sound man, works out to say $140 or so for the band fund. But our envelope had $280 in it... T, P, and I thought about this, but sort of decided not to look a gift horse in the mouth. But then Phil emailed me today suggesting that when we called back to let them know we were interested in playing again we mention the money just to make sure... it had crossed my mind too, so I was immediately convinced.
I called, and sure enough, there was a mix up, and the bartendress (?) and the doorguy basically paid out of pocket because they were confused about how much money they owed (new staff)... apparently the bartender got away with just enough to take a cab home that night, which obviously sucks for her.
So tomorrow, I'm bringing $145 dollars back to the Beat Kitchen, along with a CD and contact info (as the booking person is changing)... hey, she said she'd be happy to bring us back to play, and they seemed really appreciative that we were willing to contact them about the money and bring it back. I'm sure it will all work out for the best. But an interesting chapter in the life of redvinegar nonetheless.
Nice . .. , posted 2 Nov 2003 at 13:34 UTC by lieutenant »
(Fixture)
Rock bands with character and integrity? You people just lost your slot for "Behind the Music".
but,, posted 2 Nov 2003 at 15:53 UTC by dogmanphil »
(Fixture)
maybe will be on opera!
correction, posted 2 Nov 2003 at 16:51 UTC by dogmanphil »
(Fixture)
oprah
so, we are playing next week at winnetka cov. all are welcome. it's 5$, all ages, and it's just us, no opening band. there is a possibility that we might be playing that morning during the morning service. more info as it becomes availble to us.
directions
I ended up buying a Peavey Stereo Chorus 212 off eBay. It's from the "vaults" of Daniel Lanois' gear left over from one or more of his studios. It was quite the ordeal. I was going to bid on it last week, but I was busy helping Raul at Victoria's and so I missed the close by about 5 minutes. So I thought, "oh well, not meant to have it."
Then Phil emails me a week later, saying "it's back!" and sure enough there it was. So I emailed the seller (not Daniel) and asked if it was ok, or what the deal was, and he basically intimated, yes, and then said, how about I just sell it to you outright for $355.
That was about $125 higher than my max (including shipping), so I told him, thanks a lot, that's a fair price, but I can't swing that, I'll just go ahead and bid and see what happens. He told me, "keep in mind that includes about $150 in shipping and packing." So I did...
...and I was the only bidder. There was no reserve, and so I got the amp for $100! PLUS $150 in shipping! I got the amp for $250 3/5 of which is shipping cost.
Anyway, the amp is on it's way. I'm stoked.
The amp has Daniel's markings on it regarding guitar settings -- the first thing I want to do when we take it out is to plug it in, set it up on the markings, and see if we can figure out what tone he was using, or maybe what it was from.
I have to ask, posted 11 Nov 2003 at 13:43 UTC by nutella »
(Fixture)
Does it go up to 11?
haha, posted 11 Nov 2003 at 14:30 UTC by pedro »
(Tourist)
I guess it's a pretty loud unit, but I doubt it goes to eleven.
And it sounds GREAT. It's also not nearly as heavy as it was made out to sound in the articles I read. (Phil: not as heavy as yours!) The first thing I did was set it to the marked settings from Lanois, and yeah, you can definitely hear him all over it. It's not clear exactly what it's from, but it totally sounds very lanois-ey. For more detective work, there was a sticker on the amp that said "Mike's amp" ... I wonder who Mike could have been? (In truth, the sticker was stuck between the speaker screen and the cabinet, so it could have fallen from somewhere else.
Anyway, I can't wait for Phil, William, et al, to hear it. Very cool. WOot!
la bella vista, posted 17 Nov 2003 at 13:58 UTC by pedro »
(Tourist)
interesting.
l4b3llavista is the name of the 3bay account that is auctioning l4nois stuff.
that picture, posted 17 Nov 2003 at 15:33 UTC by dogmanphil »
(Fixture)
is the one on my DL t-shirt.
odd conicidence, posted 18 Nov 2003 at 11:34 UTC by baggins »
(Fixture)
i wasn't sure whether to post this here, or in the movies section...
not giving too much away, in The Matrix: Revolutions, there is a part where Neo is in a subway station. he (in all Keanu's acting glory) delivers the line "I don't know where here is." i was struck by the fact that he delivers this in a train station, which is eerily similar enough to the opening train sounds on RV's "I Don't Know Where Here Is."
!!!!!!!!! , posted 18 Nov 2003 at 11:37 UTC by inkblot »
(Fixture)
that's it!, posted 18 Nov 2003 at 11:51 UTC by pedro »
(Tourist)
I'm suing the Brothers Wachowski!
Either that, or I'm sampling Neo and doing a techo-remix.
oh hell yeah!, posted 18 Nov 2003 at 12:22 UTC by baggins »
(Fixture)
do it! that would be really f*in dope.
Lyon's Den, posted 1 Dec 2003 at 16:01 UTC by dogmanphil »
(Fixture)
hey friends, we are playing our last show of the year this thursday! it's should be a great show. we've been working really hard and are playing better than ever. we have erik andersun rocking as the "extra guy" for this show cause we are going to be recording it for our live 2003 cd. we are heading up to duluth the first of the year and will be starting the recording of the first redvinegar album. please try and make it out on thursday. it would be great to see you all before the holidays and heading up north. either way thanks for a great year of shows friends!
Saturday, Jan. 10th
Twin Ports Brewing Co. Superior, WI
W/ Haley Bonar and Both
we realise that most of you can't come but if you know of anyone in the area please let them know. "we're redvinegar...tell your freinds!"
Come one, come all, come see your favorite recording artists, a.k.a. redvinegar play for you at the Beat Kitchen NEXT THURSDAY, January 22nd! The show will start at 9:00 and there is a $6 cover, but the music is going to be GREAT and WELL WORTH the price of ADMISSION! It starts with our buddies Smittyvision, no strangers to Goose Island or The 'Wood, then it's yours truly Pete Peterson and the Redvinegaires, and then after that it's Eleven Dollar Life, a band starring a former NPU gospel choir drummer with the initials J.B.!
The Beat Kitchen is a great place to play with awesome sound and really top-notch food that goes above and beyond the call of pub food. Really. I love their baked potato slices with sour cream.
Anyway, I know this is short notice, but please come out to see us -- it should be a great show. Our fire has been renewed for live playing because of being wedged into meticulosity* in the studio... what I'm trying to say is, we rock!
* Yes, I'm very vocabularious today.
Chuyi!, posted 14 Jan 2004 at 14:32 UTC by nutella »
(Fixture)
中国春节
Don't forget the 22nd is also the first day in the year of the monkey.
福
Alas, I will miss the show as I'll be in S.F., hopefully with cocktailmonkey, crackmonkey and spicemonkey.
tell your friends, redvinegar is back in town and is better than ever! we really grew as a band up north and are on our way to a newer and better redvinegar. we have even been working on some new stuff that we might be playing next thursday.
we are playing the 7th of feb. at goose island. so, please check us out. we haven't played at goose in awhile.
is there a cover?, posted 16 Jan 2004 at 15:38 UTC by BigJ »
(Fixture)
for the goose gig?
$5.00, posted 16 Jan 2004 at 15:40 UTC by pedro »
(Tourist)
hey friends and fans-
we (rv) are playing twice this upcoming week! both shows are at goose island wrigleyville. weds. night for there open mic. where we will be playing for a 1/2 hour to 45min. a acoustic show. which we haven't done in awhile. that starts AT 9pm.
then saturday, we are playing the whole night. like the good old days!. music starts at 10:00pm and is 5 bucks. we would really love to see you all there. it's been along time that alot of us have got together. a great time will be had by all. oh, and there are the new live discs for sale and t-shirts and all the money goes to the record we are planning to out with may 1st. we don't have another show lined up in the near future so, please try to make it out saturday if you can. thanks,
phil
our friend matt of blue stone fame will be playing solo at our show on sat. we are really excited about having him play. i heard him last week play and it's pretty cool stuff.
There was a great turnout tonight! Thanks a lot... we can't wait until Saturday -- it should really be a great show. We have the whole night to rock out and we're going to do our best.
wow, posted 5 Feb 2004 at 07:03 UTC by dogmanphil »
(Fixture)
Kudos! tonight was great for us. thanks. oh, and pete and i signed our first autograph's other than the time my sister asked.
we have a show at our favorite pizza place Delisi's. some of you have been there before. it's on sat. march 20th. thats the same night as nate inkblot is having his moving/going away party. so, after hanging out with him grab him and bring him to the show! delisi's is on western between brwn mayr and peterson. all ages and oh, the amazing aaron moon trio will also be playing!!!
then, the next week we will be headed out to the burbs, yes thats right "we're rocking the suburs, just like jon bon jovi did!" we are playing a show with our friend matt out at a resturant in plainfield on the 26th. more info to come. but, baggins you better bring you whole church crew or something! more info when we get it. be looking for a mailing list info.
Plainfield?, posted 8 Mar 2004 at 13:14 UTC by baggins »
(Fixture)
that's awesome! I will bring as many as I can round up. I should be able to get a bunch of people. get me some flyers and I will put them up at church.
bump, posted 15 Mar 2004 at 03:55 UTC by baggins »
(Fixture)
seriously, get me something promo-wise ASAP and I can start telling people to come. I think I can get a few people to come out if i ask enough in advance.
i think matt is putting together something. i'm not sure where this place is yet. i'll let you know.
right on, posted 15 Mar 2004 at 14:04 UTC by baggins »
(Fixture)
i'm looking forward to it.
thanks!, posted 21 Mar 2004 at 01:39 UTC by pedro »
(Tourist)
to everyone for coming out tonight -- it was a great success!
it was a great night. the biggest turn out to a delisi's show yet! but, some how it doesn't feel right with out a bathroom solo from erik.
baggins!, posted 25 Mar 2004 at 09:15 UTC by dogmanphil »
(Fixture)
we are playing at the front street cantina at 10pm. friday! with matt J.
friday! , posted 25 Mar 2004 at 13:21 UTC by baggins »
(Fixture)
that's sooner than i was expecting (though the date was posted here.) i will let people know as much as i can. that's tomorrow!
i wish i knew this yesterday. i won't see too many people between today and tomorrow. but i sas a whole bunch of people yesterday that would come... i'll send out emails and stuff.
rad , posted 25 Mar 2004 at 16:29 UTC by dogmanphil »
(Fixture)
thanks duder!!!!
21?, posted 26 Mar 2004 at 00:59 UTC by baggins »
(Fixture)
is the show at a bar? 21+?
and free i think!
so, goose, posted 3 Apr 2004 at 13:39 UTC by dogmanphil »
(Fixture)
was a great time last night! we played really well. it was a little weird not to see <person> inkblot</person> there. we are really looking forward to the bash on may 1st! it's going to be a great deal. we can't wait for everyone to hear the record.
Sign up to our mailing list if you're not already on board, and then click here to get the special list members only advance price for the cd-release show! See also some in-studio shots from recording.
In a few days, we'll have a gallery of some recording pictures up and a sample song online for you to hear!
the record title is:
i don't know where here is
the track listing:
1.i don't know where here is
2.sliding to you
3.caribou rock
4.mathew
5.peace of mind
6.ok
7.lake creek days
8.ellyn
9.b-side
10.astronaut's blues
i wasn't sure if we've told you kids that yet.
Virtually, and order the CD, though we'll only be there in spirit?
online orders, posted 21 Apr 2004 at 15:19 UTC by pedro »
(Tourist)
...will be available after the release show. And i promise not to wait months to mail it. I'm going to get a bunch of CD mailers and pre-address them so all I have to do is write your address on it and pop it in the mail.
I just called H3rnando to double-check with him that we'll be in Chicago the weekend of the show and that I could go ahead and get tickets. "So should I go ahead and order two tickets to the RV show?" I asked.
"What? Why the hell would we want to go to an RV show? We don't even have a car."
He thought I meant, you know, recreational vehicles. Anyway, he DOES want to go the redvinegar show.
hahaha, posted 22 Apr 2004 at 14:31 UTC by pedro »
(Tourist)
...for the free Winnebago drawing, of course!
hey, posted 22 Apr 2004 at 16:25 UTC by blvdgirl »
(Fixture)
I've never been to an RV show. But, I walk through display RVs whenever possible. They're pretty cool.
Does Redvinegar have any shows booked in July? I'll be in Chicago two half weekends at then end of July and would love to catch a show....
Aaron will be out of town, and I'll be gettin fixed to be hitched!
er!, posted 22 Apr 2004 at 17:03 UTC by pedro »
(Tourist)
fixin' to get hitched
might alleviate some of the stressors of marriage [babies]!
tr00, posted 23 Apr 2004 at 00:33 UTC by pedro »
(Tourist)
They'd have some good offspring I reckon.
heh,, posted 23 Apr 2004 at 13:45 UTC by pedro »
(Tourist)
We think so, yet we're both afraid that we will be repaid 10-fold for the anguish we inflicted on our parents... :)
Oh yes, posted 23 Apr 2004 at 14:26 UTC by dex »
(Fixture)
I'm feeling the sting of that already. You will be. But they'll also be 10x as cute, smart, funny, etc.
the free drink at the show is a beer or soda. no mixed drinks the flyers say first drink but, shouold say first beer.
who is planning on coming and with whom?
Kudos, posted 25 Apr 2004 at 12:11 UTC by lieutenant »
(Fixture)
To Phil for the egg-cellent grammar usage there....
saturday, posted 25 Apr 2004 at 21:05 UTC by raskol »
(Fixture)
I will be there with Whom.
me, posted 25 Apr 2004 at 22:24 UTC by inkblot »
(Fixture)
i will be there. in the best of all worlds, i'd bring tara with me, but she has finals the next week, so we'll see.
I'm coming, posted 26 Apr 2004 at 15:08 UTC by baggins »
(Fixture)
Jackie will be there. Jackie's friend will be there. I'm hoping that people I've invitied from my church will come. But who knows?
perhaps, posted 26 Apr 2004 at 16:13 UTC by stan »
(Fixture)
I would really like to be there but logistics of finding a sitter and juggling kids in the middle of the night and getting up for church in the morning sadly may not work to my advantage....but here's hoping.
the preview track is up at redvinegar.net
sliding to you
We've always got so much going on that I can't keep track of free days, so we shall see what we shall see.
well, posted 28 Apr 2004 at 11:11 UTC by lukas »
(Fixture)
it's official. by an act of God (well willow creek is close enough), I'll be there. rock over DC, rock on chicago
RAWWWK!, posted 28 Apr 2004 at 11:45 UTC by dogmanphil »
(Fixture)
lukas in da house!!!
I can't make it, posted 28 Apr 2004 at 12:13 UTC by BigJ »
(Fixture)
have a stupid family thing to do, but what do I need to do to buy a cd, and how much would it cost? I suppose I could just wait until I randomly bump into Pedro again, like I did yesterday.
holy ***, posted 28 Apr 2004 at 12:44 UTC by baggins »
(Fixture)
lukas is coming? that's awesome!
yeah, posted 28 Apr 2004 at 12:48 UTC by lukas »
(Fixture)
I wasn't planning on it but I'll be playing at Axis as well and they helped to defray the cost of flying. So I get to play out there (they are doing an all jazz thing which is why Matt called) and I get to hang with redvinegar and friends. word up!
???
none yet, posted 28 Apr 2004 at 14:37 UTC by lukas »
(Fixture)
i believe ryan has to work and i dunno about mgl.
how did you get involved in being flown in to play at that?
it'll be cool to meet you guys! make sure you find me.
Pedro, posted 29 Apr 2004 at 11:53 UTC by BigJ »
(Fixture)
How much for a cd and how should I go about getting one, since I can't make it to the show?
If you're still living with your mom, it's probably the easiest for you to give her the money and she and I will make the trade.
G- "you got the stuff"
P- "yeah but it's crazy I got to warn you"
G- "just give it to me man I can take it!"
I'm listening to one right now... it's so exciting... they look great and everything... I can't wait for you guys to see these things!
...to help get things ready... the boys are rehearsing...
it is the calm before the storm.
video, posted 4 May 2004 at 14:15 UTC by dogmanphil »
(Fixture)
there will be video of the show coming soon.
need rv's cd x2, posted 10 May 2004 at 11:46 UTC by stan »
(Fixture)
one of my sisters would like a copy and another npts employee is interested in aquiring a copy as well. when can we make the deal?
stan,, posted 10 May 2004 at 12:26 UTC by pedro »
(Tourist)
I'll be seeing you sometime today regarding your computer, and we can talk then! Thanks!
Hmm? Enquiring minds want to know when non-locals can order a copy!
CDBABY!
oh yeah,, posted 11 May 2004 at 15:41 UTC by pedro »
(Tourist)
Please feel free to write us a review.
i'm kinda wondering what people think of the disc?
thumbs up!, posted 12 May 2004 at 12:14 UTC by baggins »
(Fixture)
I've only listened to it once, but I like it. Jackie's parents really like it too!
Astronaut's Blues 15M
I Don't Know Where Here Is 15M
Ellyn 15M
they are a little big so it might take a bit to download.
more coming soon!
Hosted, posted 12 May 2004 at 14:42 UTC by inkblot »
(Fixture)
get the same files faster at http://www.movealong.org/redvinegar/.
more clips, posted 12 May 2004 at 17:50 UTC by dogmanphil »
(Fixture)
slow learners 18M
yoink, posted 12 May 2004 at 19:39 UTC by inkblot »
(Fixture)
doot doot dooooooooo
nice, posted 13 May 2004 at 00:49 UTC by baggins »
(Fixture)
nate = rules.
Peace Of Mind 16M
Caribou Rock 12M
Lake Creek Days 16M
ok so, thats all of them. enjoy!
the album, posted 17 May 2004 at 10:30 UTC by blvdgirl »
(Fixture)
I'm only in the middle of my second listening, but I'm liking it. It's funny, though, some of the songs have changed so much- I feel like I'm sitting down and getting to know them all over again.
that's good -- , posted 17 May 2004 at 11:37 UTC by pedro »
(Tourist)
We have played these songs for so long, that if they were exactly the way you remembered them, then we wouldn't have grown at all. :)
Thanks for buying it!
there aren't a whole lot of songs on the disc that are really old songs. it's not a flash back to java house, the hump, burgh desk, type of cd. ok, peace of mind, ellyn, and kinda sliding to you were the only ones that pete played in college. kinda weird.
a little late, but here they are.
pedro, you have an account on that system. dogmanphil, you can have one too.
cd, posted 18 May 2004 at 08:09 UTC by stan »
(Fixture)
i exercised with it last night. it was great, like running with friends....not something one can easily accomplish on a treadmill.
t-shirts, posted 17 Aug 2004 at 15:22 UTC by smax »
(Fixture)
Sorry for the specious use of the bbs, but whoever (pedro?, phil?) got the redvinegar shirts printed could you answer these two questions: 1. How did the shirts turn out? What company did the printing?
a couple of odd things; a little off center on one batch... but overall, I think we were happy with them (it was also a very simple design -- one color). We used Propaganda T-Shirts in Chicago.
Face Rocked Off, posted 18 Aug 2004 at 09:03 UTC by chester »
(Fixture)
I was very surprised to have my face rocked off this morning at 7:00 AM by blaring redvinegar in the NP Student Services Building. It was rad.
nice., posted 18 Aug 2004 at 12:27 UTC by barefootjumper »
(Fixture)
that would be a pretty fun thing to witness.
hmm, posted 18 Aug 2004 at 13:55 UTC by baggins »
(Fixture)
speaking of getting our faces rocked off...
when's the next RV show?
unknown, posted 18 Aug 2004 at 14:28 UTC by pedro »
(Tourist)
We're still trying to figure that one out.
redvinegar rides again!
We're playing with Smittyvision on Friday, the 22nd at Goose Island Wrigleyville -- 3535 N. Clark (just south of Wrigley). It's $5 at the door and should be a great show! Come see us play and spread the word -- we will only be playing a few shows between now and late spring -- so your chances are limited!
Phil, what time is the show?
Also, FEoTD!
10 oclock, posted 14 Oct 2004 at 09:37 UTC by dogmanphil »
(Fixture)
should be a great time. as peter said this is the begining of the end. next friday will be one of about four show in the chicago land area that we will be playing between now and next spring so, please try to make it because you might just not have a chance to again.
world tour, posted 14 Oct 2004 at 09:43 UTC by lukas »
(Fixture)
come to DC! play the grog and tankard! stay with me!
I echo lukas, posted 19 Oct 2004 at 16:32 UTC by dex »
(Fixture)
And I've got an extra room or two to stay in as well, if his house can't fit y'all.
oh yeah, posted 19 Oct 2004 at 17:09 UTC by pedro »
(Tourist)
The Friday show has been canceled due to a Goose Island scheduling conflict... stay tuned. Repeat: no show this Friday.
sadness, posted 19 Oct 2004 at 17:43 UTC by anna »
(Fixture)
So, I just realized officially that I will never get to see a redvinegar show.
hey, posted 19 Oct 2004 at 18:09 UTC by pedro »
(Tourist)
What are your plans for the next year? If you round us up a crowd and the airfare, we'll play a show in Hawaii.
About the airfare...
Saturday, November 13th -- Goose Island Wrigleyville!
Be there, are B^2!
We're excited to actually play again! Now... where did I put my guitar...
Phil, what time is the show?
practice went great last night. here are a few pictures. we are really looking forward to saturday night. the show will start at 10. come on out and check out our sixth redvinegar drummer joe! i think we now have had more drummers than pearl jam or spinal tap!
With so many drummer changes, it's time for Redvinegar; Behind the Music.
has everyone seen the new web page at: redvinegar.net
this sat.!!!, posted 17 Dec 2004 at 01:00 UTC by dogmanphil »
(Fixture)
we are playing the Half Way Jane Christmas Show this sat. we go on at 8pm and play a short set so get there early. there will be 6 others playing the show all for 5 bucks!!! goose island, sat night at 8, 5 bucks. now go!
we would like to announce the newest member of the redvinegar family!!!
ladies and gent's (drum roll)
Ty David
WOW!, posted 3 Feb 2005 at 02:04 UTC by Shredzilla »
(Fixture)
While I think that babies
a. are stupid (leave a baby in a room with a can of corn and a can opener and that baby will starve to death)
and
2. look like Winston Churchill to me
One cannot fade Ty David. Congrats!
btr
Dave
hey, posted 3 Feb 2005 at 06:15 UTC by pedro »
(Tourist)
can he play drums?
Ok Fans..., posted 28 Feb 2005 at 17:09 UTC by dogmanphil »
(Fixture)
mark your calenders and buy your plane tickets the redvinegar farewell tour is wrapping up:
march 11th @ delisi's
skates shapened and repaired show. ( www.peterpeterson.com )
pete, dave hendrick, jay from buddy nuisance, and i are playing acoustic.
april 16th @ the elbow room
more info to come!
april 30th @ goose island
final show!
slow learners will be playing a set as well as a few more friends to help us go out in style. it would really be great if you guys could try and come to any of these shows.
will try, posted 1 Mar 2005 at 14:17 UTC by lukas »
(Fixture)
I would love to see you guys at Elbo Room. I love that room and have a lot of great memories playing there. But if I come to Chicago for a show it would be the 30th. We'll see though...
it would mean alot to me (us) if you could and karna but, i'm guessing that isn't posssible.
pedro and i will be playing w/ shredzilla and a friend of mine jay from halfway jane/buddy nuisance, this friday. we will be playing alot of pete's skates sharpend versions of songs as well as others done in that vain. should be a cool show with some fun surprises.
what time?, posted 8 Mar 2005 at 11:12 UTC by pedro »
(Tourist)
what time?, posted 10 Mar 2005 at 01:40 UTC by baggins »
(Fixture)
what time is the Elbow Room show?
I want to go, but i will probably have to be up very early on sunday morning. and i will not get up there until around 9pm anyways, coming from work and all...
just trying to see what i'm in for cramming a lot of stuff in that weekend...
9;00, posted 10 Mar 2005 at 08:47 UTC by dogmanphil »
(Fixture)
9:00 at delesi's
9:00 at elbow room (we play first)
sweet, posted 11 Mar 2005 at 02:12 UTC by baggins »
(Fixture)
i can make it up there from work by 9, catch your set, and still make it to bed before midnight. not too bad.
what time is the goos show?
have fun tomorrow, posted 15 Apr 2005 at 10:48 UTC by lukas »
(Fixture)
Wish I could come see you guys at Elbo Room! Rock some faces and have a blast. Tell Tim to enjoy the subs on the front corners of the stage. And is anyone going to tape these final shows for posterity?
WXRT 93.1 7:30 PM Tonight, Sunday, April 17th : redvinegar will be on Local Anesthetic! Tune in! And record it if you can!
http://tastytronic.net/gallery/elboroom
word up!, posted 18 Apr 2005 at 09:03 UTC by lukas »
(Fixture)
that is awesome! and you got the marquee!
wasn't able to listen to wxrt online because I was still at church (I forget we were adding a second service last night) plus it uses an AOL media plugin that is windows only.
I'll temporarily post an ogg/mp3 to listen to.
very weird. cool. weird. cool.
captain,, posted 18 Apr 2005 at 15:28 UTC by pedro »
(Tourist)
that is exactly how I felt about it. We didn't know what song he was going to pick, and I figured i don't know where here is or b-side, or maybe lake creek days... but I was expecting something upbeat. Caribou rock was totally unexpected for me. It's really about faith, friendship, and doubt in a pretty straightforward way, but listening to it with new ears as the swan song (and highest profile "performance") of the band seemed terribly sad, but somehow totally appropriate.
goodbye letter, posted 28 Apr 2005 at 14:48 UTC by pedro »
(Tourist)
au revoir
last show, posted 28 Apr 2005 at 15:08 UTC by pedro »
(Tourist)
This Saturday, April 30th, will be redvinegar's last show.
The show starts at 9PM with The Tastytronic Philharmonic performing
excerpts from the Space-Rock Opera "The Last Transmission from
Starbase XY003," written by Ben Beckstrom and Pete Peterson and
featuring members of redvinegar with Brian Grant and Ben Beckstrom.
Next up is Slow Learners, in town from California, playing songs from
their first record and hopefully some new stuff too. They'll have a
new EP for sale at the show.
Last but not least, redvinegar will take the stage for two sets
featuring our original music along with lots of new covers, just for
the fun of it. We'll have every past member of redvinegar on stage
with us, as well as members of smittyvision and some other special
guests. We're going out in style; the only thing missing is you.
Here are the details:
Saturday, April 30th, 9PM
Goose Island Wrigleyville
7$ at the door / 21+
There will be door prizes and some special gifts, as well as a
merchandise "fire sale" including some brand new merchandise made
especially for this show.
PLEASE: If you have digital cameras or film cameras, bring them to the
show and take lots of pictures. Take pictures of the performers, but
especially take pictures of people having fun. We'd love to have a
record of the night. If you have a film camera, give us your film at
the end of the night and we'll get it developed. Thanks! Email your
digital pictures to we@redvinegar.net.
All in all it promises to be a great night full of memories.
Thanks for your support over the years.
As always, more info available at: http://redvinegar.net/
THANK YOU!!
yeah, posted 2 May 2005 at 13:59 UTC by pedro »
(Tourist)
recording, posted 13 May 2005 at 11:12 UTC by andronicus »
(Fixture)
any idea when the recording of the last show might be posted somewhere?
goodwill, posted 14 Oct 2007 at 21:06 UTC by inkblot »
(Fixture)
i saw a copy of i don't know where here is for sale at the goodwill on harlem in oak park yesterday.
truly,, posted 15 Oct 2007 at 01:28 UTC by pedro »
(Tourist)
... we have arrived!
buy it??
probably, posted 15 Oct 2007 at 21:20 UTC by baggins »
(Fixture)
because he already has it. and it would be nice if a stranger were to take a chance on it and discover the wonderful world of rv.
got it, posted 17 Oct 2007 at 20:23 UTC by inkblot »
(Fixture)
yeah, i have a copy of it, and it would be awesome for some stranger to find it, buy it, and love it.
oh, and tara assures me that the copy i found at goodwill isn't hers ;)
